I have an brand new Toyota 86(use to be Scion FR-S ) I replaced the stock tires Michelin primacy hp 215/45/17 a Prius tire, with continental extreme contact dw 225/45/17. I noticed when I’m driving espically 45 mph and above when I turn my stearing wheel to the left a little it makes a noise from the front passenger wheel like it’s going over the wake up grates on the side of the road. It will make the noise louder and if I increase speed and if I turn the wheel more or if I’m taking a corner. There is a slight vibration in the wheel. It feels to me more like the tread is difffrent. There is no difference in the side walls, tread, or pressure in the tire that I can tell. It only happens on that side and when I turn the wheel to the left if I turn the steering wheel to the right no noise or when I make right turns. Do I have a defective tire? Should I take it back? Or is it something mechanical? Thank you for your help.
So this noise suddenly appeared immediately after replacing the stock tires? That’s pretty telling, eh? I think you already know what the problem is right? Are you asking why that would happen then? If so, tell us a little more about the new tires. Are they the same exact size as the old ones? What about the difference in tread patterns? Are the wheels themselves still the same?
If the tires are not the same size then probably something is rubbing against something else.]
If the new tires are the same size, I would make sure all lug nuts were tightened properly.
Someone has to jack the wheels off and rotate them to see where the noise is from.
All four tires were replaced it’s different tread pattern but the rim stayed the same. Since the noise only happens when I turn the steering wheel to the left and not at all to the right. It has to be from that wheel. It is not a noise just from different tire tread pattern if it was I would hear it all the time and would not matter what why I turn the wheel.
The noise only occurs when turning a certain direction? That sounds like either a defective tire or a wheel bearing problem. You might try swapping the tires around to see if the noise follows one of the tires.
That’s what I was thinking as the car is brand new the wheel bareing might be less likely. I only feel a slight vibration no thumps or something that might be a warp in the tire. I have driven about 300miles so far on them so I wanted to make sure it stayed constant and it has.
It’s not an unheard of thing for a new tire to be defective. The tire store should be willing to help you decide if that’s the problem or not. Another possibility is the tire is ok but the wheel wasn’t balanced correctly too.
Edit: Just curious, when you changed to different tires, did the tire shop give you a significant allowance on the price b/c the old tires, the ones you presumably gave them in exchange, were nearly unused?
Your new tires are wider and larger in diameter. Dollars to donuts, you have rubbing.
No discount or allowance but did charge me for disposal fee. Only had 2k on those tires
Wow. That doesn’t seem very fair. Coincidentally I’m looking for some – let’s just say “well priced” – used tires for my truck, and OEM 2000 milers would be great for what I need, if I could get them for the right price that is. Those of yours wouldn’t have fit my truck tho. But I expect somebody got a good deal on them.
That is certainly possible, but the new tires are only a fifth of an inch farther into the wheel well and a tenth of an inch wider on each side. That seems like a very small difference, but you could be correct. A way to test it I would be to turn left and right on a parking lot, gradually turning the wheel farther to see if there is a noise. This would result in a spiral pattern. It should rub at low speeds as well as 45 mph. If it rubs almost immediately as the OP said, then it couldn’t be the tires rubbing inside the wheel well. Otherwise the older tires would have done it too.
OP stated they replaced “brand new” 215/45/17 tires with 225/45/17 tires. Why? is my question.
No not true. If you read my first post you will see that I am still in 17in dia. Just going up from 215 to 225 I gain a small amount on with and height. Now if I would have gone to a 19 or 18 and increased the ratio higher then yes I would run the risk of rubbing. That’s why I chose the size I did plus I won’t lose any power either because I am in a safe ratio. Had I went to 18inch and wider and higher I would start loosing power and performance and run the risk of rubbing. The car handles and rides perfect except for the problem I’m having with the one tire.
Rim size isn’t relevant. Your new tires are slightly larger than the originals, and that may be enough to cause rubbing. There isn’t a lot of extra room in the wheel wells of these cars. But this should be easy to verify. Look for signs of rubbing in the right front wheel well,
Because this crappy Prius tires offer no grip and no performance for a rear wheel drive sports car. Every time I would start off from a start under normal driving conditions my traction control would engage at 2500k rpms because the tires would not grip. The only reason they put those tires on that car is cause they say for to make it more spirited driving and you can drift that car at 30mph. I’m not a young kid and don’t need to drift it and have no reason to. Plus in a little rain not good traction at all. A sports car should come with sports car tires not skinny Prius tires. They even handled like sxxx. I was so mad when I got that car. I even put in a lot of negative surveys about that the rest of the car is perfect.
I would have noticed it if was rubbing though I had a tire rub on one of my first cars I know the sound and feed back. That is not what I am experancing. Besides when I first noticed the noise the tire check was the first thing I did to make sure it is not rubbing.
Swap your front tires side to side. If the noise moves with the tire, it’s the tire, If the noise doesn’t move, something is rubbing in that wheel well.
I get it, the Primacy HP tires are there for long life and good MPG’s. The slight size difference should not have cause rubbing as there is that much variation in the same size across different model tires. Move the tire, side to side or even front-back (if they are side specific) and see if the noise follows the tire or the corner. Get a good look at the LF tire, too, to see if any rub marks are present. If its the corner, look for something that got bumped or bent.
I completely understand why you replaced the OEM tires. If I weren’t such a cheapskate I’d replace the OEMs on almost every car I’ve ever driven before I even got it off the dealership lot. OEM tires are usually put on because they’re cheap, not because they’re the best.
But the others are right - it doesn’t matter how big your rim is. We know that stays the same. But you put a taller tire on, and so the overall diameter of the wheel/tire is larger, which means you risk rubbing. Especially since they’re also wider - I bet you’ll find scrape marks on your fender liner where it starts to curve downward. There are often protrusions there to make room for stuff on the other side, and the manufacturer assumes clearance won’t be an issue because 99% of their customers will never monkey with tire sizes.
BTW, watch the swearing - it’s pretty strongly discouraged around here.
It seems that most tire shopping places list 215-45-17 tires so the 225 could be a problem. A Google search tends to dispute that the factory tires are Prius type tires but are not full on performance tires .