Tester
Is this electric or the traditional hydraulic power steering? Sounds like electric which might be a case for early battery replacement.
Saw that on tv , said electric .
Is there really a need to park the truck?
The failure is a one second loss in power steering assist.
Nope! In my opinion, no.
Iâve got a driveway full of cars that all have outstanding recalls, several. OMG!
One of these days they could go to the shop⊠or maybe not.
Government (think: Nancy Pelosi) knows more about the safe operation of my cars than I do.
(Think: your health care insurance, too.)
Iâm pretty handy around cars. My mom didnât raise any dolts! I can assess the situation and determine whatâs what.
CSA
You do realize that most people on this board are here to get away from the political crap?
If youâre going to bring politics to this board? Youâre on the wrong board!
Tester
Sorry, but thatâs where car ownership and politics collide. Government orders recalls if manufacturers donât do voluntary campaigns.
I wish it werenât so, but thatâs what it is. As long as government has a hand in cars and transportation, Iâm afraid it will be a part in these discussions.
With all due respect, You are the one that brought up a government recall.
CSA
Are you kidding me?
A recall is issued by the vehicle manufacturer! Not the government!
Tester
A software glitch causes loss of power steering assist, glad for the recall, but I drove my 72 f150 for probably 10 years without power steering assist due to a $450 high pressure hose replacement. I am not saying it should not be fixed, but it is not a death knell park it in the driveway if you are ready to deal with it. IMHOP (in my humble opinion)
No, Iâm not kidding!
CSA
While the manufacturer issues the recall, the NHTSA can strong arm them into it. The US Government brought a criminal suit against Toyota for trying to block the NHTSA investigation. Not only did Toyota initiate a recall for unintended acceleration, they paid over $2 billion to get the Feds to drop the suit. Yeah, the government does get involved. Thatâs not a bad thing, either. Do you think manufacturers would initiate any recalls if the Feds werenât read, willing, and able to make their lives hard?
BTW, Nancy has little to nothing to do with recalls. That part was silly. Donât do that again, @common_sense_answer. Silly is my job. Oh, and @bingâs, too.
Along with the faulty ignition switches that GM kept hidden for years that killed/maimed people?
Tester
https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls/recallprocess.cfm
âManufacturers voluntarily initiate many of these recalls, while others are either influenced by NHTSA investigations or ordered by NHTSA via the courts.â
CSA
Anyone else purposely coasted down a deserted hill in neutral with the engine off (steering not locked, of course) to see how the steering felt? In my little car, itâs not bad at all. I did it because of all the (not just GM) stories of electric P/S failures.
Iâve got some of those in my driveway. Iâve read the court documents and assessed the situation and itâs not as dire as many believe, in my informed opinion.
I donât want to downplay the recalls, nor would I encourage anybody not to participate, but I have not taken any of them for the recall, yet. Itâs been years, I believe. So far, none have injured anybody. I swear one grabbed my pant leg, but when I turned to look the car was just staring straight ahead.
In my state itâs legal to ride a motorcycle with no helmet. Thereâs no emission testing or safety testing of vehicles, and itâs still legal to run with scissors!
Oh, the humanity!
Iâm an older guy (Go figure how I would have survived with my attitude and all, right?) You have to consider that some of us grew up when cars didnât have collapsible steering columns or seatbelts, single circuit drum brakes, and I still have my Jarts set, the ones with real points that could really kill somebody, etcetera, etceteraâŠ
CSA
Whoa, Nellie!
My inadequate PC wouldnât open that fortune.com story.
So, I did some reading to find out why owners of nearly a million trucks should park their vehicles.
Other than right here I couldnât find where owners are advised to âpark it.â
Perhaps somebody could steer me to that information (in the form of a link or PDF, etcetera).
I see that itâs not really 800,000, but more likely 690,685 vehicles involved in the recall AND itâs possibly only 2 percent of those with a software glitch problem (690,685 x .02 = 13,814 vehicles) that could lose power steering assist for a second during low-speed turning maneuvers. AND this is for only 2014 models at this point.
All Iâm seeing is that when GM gets ready, owners of these 2014 trucks are to return to the dealer for a re-flash.
From the horseâs mouth âŠ
Part 573 Safety Recall Report 17V-414
I hope this helps anybody in a panic after reading that,
âIf You Own A GM Pickup, You May Want To Park It!â
Like I said to @Tester earlier, I read up on these recalls and make my own informed decision and I encourage others to do likewise.
Folks, if youâve got one of these trucks then call your dealer and see when it can go in for an update. Be cautious until then.
CSA
- Donât bring me into it. I never mentioned her. I could fill a page though if you want.
- If you take it in for a recall, you get two months free Sirius radio. Otherwise its $5 a month for five months and you get free coffee and donuts while you wait and they list all the stuff wrong.
- I always take mine in for recalls as soon as I can.
- Yeah Iâve lost all power assist going 65 mph. Itâs easy to move to the side of the road but a real arm buster trying to turn a corner. Got used to it though with the 86 and morning sickness. Never lost an electric power assist so not sure if this is fair.
Over and out
Ha, ha, haâŠ!
Good description, but doesnât your dealer try and sell you a newer vehicle, too? Youâre never tempted to stroll the showroom?
I thought that was the real intent of some of these recalls.
I could be mistaken, but I donât think that ignition key ring recall cost GM. I think it paid in increased showroom traffic and car sales! A salespersonâs dream come true.
CSA
Park it at the dealer that is and go inside and buy a new truck ?
âYouâd think it would damage their brand,â she said. âBut itâs actually helping to drive purchases at the dealership. You come in to have your old car fixed and see the new designs and technology, and wind up thinking âMaybe Iâll buy a new car.â â
âBut sometimes there is no substitute for simply getting people in the door.â
â 'A good dealer will tell you they just need to get a customer into the dealership, and theyâll do the rest, â she said."
Recalls can be a good thing for customers and businesses.
CSA
Failure of hydraulic power steering results in the requirement for a great deal of effort to steer especially at low speed but it appears that electric power steering failure results in having non power steering which is not especially difficult. In my 50+ years of driving most of my vehicles had non power steering including pickups, vans and even 1 ton flat bed farm truck so I donât see how the problem would result in a dangerous situation.