Just to make it even more confusing, in the late '80s-early '90s, GM of Canada attempted to market their Daewoo and Isuzu brands as Passport vehicles. This marketing attempt was a resounding failure.
That’s not been my experience with their motorcycles. From 1980 I’ve had plenty of motorcycles. The best, without a doubt, the best made, highest quality were all Hondas: 1986 CB-650; 1996 PC-800; and the best, a 2016 Honda Goldwing. I also owned Suzuki, Yamaha and Harleys. Only the Hondas had flawless engines and transmissions, shaft drives and electrics. The Hondas were also easy to wrench on, even with all the plastic on the PC-800. Other bikes may have been faster (Yamaha FJR 1300) or more stylish (Harley), or easier to drive in the city (Suzuki Burgman 650), but none were as problem free as the Honda, even the later 2016 Goldwing, designed and engineered after the old man died.
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Good for you, guys!
I, however, pride myself in the habit of not stepping into the same puddle more than once. Thus no honda for me.
Also, I urge you to look into honda vs Toyota eCVT design.
Who wants grandma’s furniture?
Was it badge-engineering when Plymouths and Dodges were the same car with different badges? GM and Ford did a lot of the same.
I don’t need no stinkin’ badges.
Volkswagen sold Chrysler minivans badged as VWs.
Hondas badged as Rovers, or Sterling in the US… Imagine a Brit built Honda sold in Ohio against Ohio built Accords.
Don’t get started on rebadged vans… Mercedes Sprinters as Rams, Iveco vans as Rams and on and on…
Badge engineering within a single parent, GM, Ford or Chrysler, is common. Fiat, Lancia, and Alfa Romeo. Across the majors is pretty common, too, as we see.
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Dodge was about 2" longer than the Plymouth, normally the rear floor board of the Dodge had the added 2", Plymouth was a cheaper version then the Dodge with different options, Plymouth was able to sell the car for less due to using less steel than the Dodge, it was not until the 1976 Dodge Aspen and 1976 Plymouth Volare that the cars were the exact same dimensions…
Yes a lot of things interchanged between all 3 Mopar’s… But they were not rebadged between the 2 until 1976…
And YES even the prized Plymouth Barracuda/'Cuda and Dodge Challenger E-body’s had different wheel bases…
And what makes a Honda, a Honda? The engine? Saturn offered a Honda V6. Jensen Interceptors had Chryco V8s as did Griffin and several other boutique cars. How about the AC Ace with a Ford V8?.. the Cobra. The aluminum V8 GM sold to the Brits for everything from Range Rovers to MGB GTs. Or the GM V6 in Jeeps? The 240 mph McLaren F1 with a BMW engine? Saabs with Triumph or Ford engines?
Or maybe it is other parts like a GM automatics in Rolls Royces and Jaguars in the 60s up to the 90s.
Is it build quality? Those Brit Sterlings were Hondas built by people who could not have cared less if it was right or not. The cars were crap, Honda designed crap.
Of course I forgot the French Simcas sold as Dodge Omnis and Plymouth Horizons with Simca and VW engines. The boxy fwd twins from 1978.
Suits me just fine!
lol old furniture has alot of character not found at ikea.
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At least for 1988 the Grand Voyager and Grand Caravan were exactly the same with minor cosmetic differences but at the same price point. When dad ordered the new 88 Grand Voyager the one box he almost forgot to check was if it would be a Plymouth or Dodge, wouldn’t change anything on the order other than which grill and badges put on at the plant. With the exception of the Denali trim i don’t see any premium for the GMC badge compared to Chevy either.
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IIRC, the only Honda components in the Sterling cars were the engines and transmissions. As far as I recall, the bodies were styled and built by the Brits, and the electrical systems were British in nature. The interior, as is typical with high-end British cars, was a beautiful combination of high-grade leather and wood panels. I think that it was constant, ongoing electrical issues (and poor assembly quality) that doomed the Sterling cars.
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You forgot the GM magnetorheologic suspension in Ferraris. I thought you might go there first.
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Magnaride in Ferraris (before Corvette!), Audis, Honda, Range Rovers, Mustangs Cadillac, Camaro and Corvette and big SUVs.
But those were all after GM kicked us out as Delphi and continue as BWI after Delphi dumped the business.
I don’t consider that “sharing”, I call that conquest!
A lot of people do, since used high quality furniture sells for the same price (or higher) as when new. Some lines of these furniture companies haven’t changed decades and still sell extremely well.
I wouldn’t consider that the same as the Honda and Chevy vehicles. Plymouth and Dodge have been under Chryco umbrella for decades. Same with Ford and Lincoln, And GM (chevy, Pontiac, GMC, Olds, Buick and Cadillac).
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Agree 100%.
On the other hand, a lot of folks are having trouble getting rid of run-of-the-mill hand me downs from parents and grandparents, especially big furniture items. Kids don’t want them.
Your Kids Don’t Want Your Stuff - NerdWallet
And to keep it car-related, who’s going to want all those tools in your garage?
I have a 100 year old round side table in my living room… a wash stand and dresser in the spare bedroom at least that old.
Old furniture is built waaaay better than IKEA junk. (I HATE IKEA with a passion and will never set foot in the store! I won’t do that forced mouse-maze again!)
We have 35 year old solid wood furniture we bought unfinished and my wife finished it in tung oil.
Because of the crap in the market, I built a pantry cabinet, a tv cabinet and custom bathroom vanity over the last few years.
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I don’t know if there is a IKEA store anywhere near me but from what I have heard obout them I feel the same way.
It’s better and I would prefer it (I have nothing but 1 table and 3 chairs I bought at the Starvation Army and refinished) but it’s a minority preference. That it can fetch a high price (I bet most of it is discarded.) reflects the wealth of that minority, not its popularity.