My daughter picked up her Tesla Model Y on Saturday. When she got home from the dealer I checked the car for fit and finish. I was impressed. The paint job was perfect, the panel gaps were even and commendably small. Interior finish was perfect. Sunday we went for an expressway ride, 40 miles each way. The car had a smooth, quiet ride. Handling was amazing, like the car was on rails. The electronics in the car are amazing. There are 4 external cameras, possibly more. When you put on a turn signal, the 15" display screen changes its view to provide a picture to the side of the car. The acceleration on this car is the fastest ive ever experienced outside a racetrack. On the way home from our Sunday trip my daughter activated Full Autonomous Driving and it did a perfect job of getting us home. I’d rate this car as A+.
Were you nervous while the car was driving itself ? I would be .
Who knows? She leased it so the depreciation is not her problem.
Not at all. After a few minutes it felt “normal”.
+1 for Mr VOLVO
As someone that does not like being in a passenger seat, I would be very nervous not having a breathing person in control, but then again with some of the drivers I see out driving, probably be safer…
You’re concerned about depreciation on a CAR PURCHASE? REALLY?
Then stay away from any of these vehicles.
Why do you even care ?
He doesn’t. IMO @Cavell is intent on ruining someone else’s day.
This is a Tesla so this may not apply but leases are typically based on the estimated residual value at the end of the lease so depreciation is factored into the lease payments. Vehicles that depreciate more quickly generally have higher lease rates. The lessor does not want to take a vehicle back in 24 or 36 months that its market depreciation is more than the payments they’ve received plus whatever “interest rate” they’ve deemed reasonable. There’s all sorts of exceptions (incentives, etc.) but to imply that someone leasing a vehicle is not affected by depreciation is not always true and I would argue is usually not true.
I don’t like EV’s. Social engineering mostly. All cars depreciate. Hybrids are ok. You seem to like it. Didn’t hear any negative comments. Let’s leave it at that.
Ummmm…no. Lots of consumers have had lots of non-social-engineered interest in EVs for a reeeeaaaaallllly long time. There’s nothing fake about the demand side.
No. It’s called SCIENCE and trying to save our environment.
A friend recently bought a 2022, and has had a few near-misses while using the self-driving feature. She reports it’s not ready for prime time. I wonder what refinements have been implemented over 2 model years.
I didn’t have that experience. Tesla had a month long free use of autonomous driving in May and I tried it. I was driving on a main road through a residential area. Three people were standing on a corner at a T into the road I was on; they were across the other lane. AD wanted me to stop for the pedestrians even though it wasn’t clear that they wanted to cross. Furthermore, there is no obligation for traffic to stop for pedestrians at that intersection or any other in this road. I have other complaints but I’ll let it go with that one.
That’s a good point. I guess the self-drive computer hasn’t learned yet how to use eye-contact. Sounds are very important too, I wonder if it uses sounds in the decision process? Might work pretty good for freeways, but for surface streets, without making use of eye-contact and sound inputs, seems pretty unlikely computerized self-driving will ever be safe enough.
Know what is “social-engineering?”
Oil Company propaganda. “Clean, reliable, powerful gasoline!”
They also have all the people who have relied on income from oil to be on their side, rather than re-tooling and/or re-training their own businesses.
Car mechanics…some cannot even work on a hybrid!
Heating companies when you ask to have your furnace prepped for deep slumber/back-up usage: “Those heat pumps won’t keep you warm in winter…” when they just did thru a particularly cold one…
Etc.
Guess that saddle makers, tack providers, riding whip companies faced as similar situation back in the the day–cries of “Get a horse!” did not last too long.
Many new homes here in NH are being built with heat-pumps as their ONLY source for heat and AC. No backup.
One of our houses has about a 15-18yo 3 stage heat pump (100% electric) and at 0 degrees F outside, that 3rd stage kicks in and it will make you sweat… I like to say, 1st stage is normal heat, 2nd stage very hot, 3rd stage flame thrower… lol
The AC is capable of keeping it 30F cooler than the outside heat in our hot summers…
The house we are in now has a 5ish yo (it has the newest freon in it) HVAC with gas heat and I am NOT impressed with it in the least, and it cost more than the other house in the winter…Both units are over sized…
EDIT: Sorry both houses have garages to keep a car in it, you now, to keep it car related…
I’m glad you both like it.
I have a 2023 Model Y about a year old and I like it a lot. It handles well, is comfortable and has plenty of room with the front trunk, the rear trunk and the subtrunk (that easily holds more than a carry-on). I traded my Subaru Ascent, that we liked, for this as I did not need to carry 7 passengers. The cost of travel is much less with the EV than with a gas engine.
I bought a 2020 Model 3 in December 2020. I like it a lot also, and my wife likes it better than the Model Y as it is smaller.
Both cars are much faster than any I have driven since I began driving in about 1961. Acceleration is easily controlled so you don’t have to worry about speeding away from every light by accident. The speed in the Model 3 saved me once when a truck on an interstate decided to pull into the left lane with me there. If I had braked, the car behind me would undoubtedly have hit me, so I accelerated and got ahead of him. The acceleration in the middle ranges is amazing.
The Model 3 had some panel gaps, but it didn’t bother me enough to refuse the car. I had a couple of problems with the 3 that were mostly corrected by repair people coming to my house to do the work. The Y had better attention to construction details. It had poorly adjusted headlights that were fixed at their shop. You can do it yourself from the screen, but I don’t have the ability to know if they are right.
I bought the self-driving with the 3 but found it to be not very good, so I rarely used, except for the speed control and lane keep assist with automatic lane changes, as those are excellent.
I got the free month trial of self-driving recently in the Y and found it to be excellent, so I am renting it by the month for the summer. I use it mostly on long drives but sometimes on short ones. It makes occasional mistakes and is more cautious than I am in some circumstances, such as entering a T and turns in general. The system is the same in the 3 and the Y.
But you must pay attention as it is not a complete self-driving solution at this time. It makes driving a little more relaxing, but you need to know what is happening. It is easy to disengage it just by pushing up the stalk, turning the wheel or tapping the brake so you are never not able to control the car.
There are many more features and advantages that make me glad I got the cars (and no, I am not a Musk fan-boy and think he is bizarre at times, or at many times).