That’s the only way I drink it. I buy oranges cut them in half and put them in something similar to this…
The next best is frozen concentrate.
The trailer in the pic looked clean, that was a steal for somebody who’s looking for one. I’m assuming it’s made by one of the major RV manufacturers. I would imagine they used some of the same materials in their RVs built for the retail public. I’ve seen videos of how cheaply made these things are. I think the main issue is when leaks develop and the cheap OSB or particle board gets wet. Plus everything is just stapled together, even the furniture.
I dunno, I’ll continue to buy the cartons of OJ. Tastes just fine to me. I remember one of the kibbutzes we stayed at in Israel had a big juice machine for breakfast. You’d stick the oranges in and it would squeeze the juice out into your glass. Yes it was good but really not that different than the pasteurized variety. Some people think they should not drink pasteurized milk too. There is a reason for it. I have OJ every morning but I’m not about to squeeze my own every day. See DIY car design and why they don’t sell.
Hi. Could we please bring this back to cars? Thanks.
The VOC out gassing eventually goes away just like the new car smell goes away, in fact it’s VOC out gassing that causes that “new car smell”. If you are worried about it, open the windows.
If it lost that new house smell, don’t worry about it.
If we’re allowed to talk about FEMA trailers as over-the-road vehicles, I just want to point out I always suspected Formaldehyde was also coming from the chemical toilets. If you use cheap chemicals, and don’t use them as prescribed, bad things can happen.
Sure, open the windows in 107 degree heat index and 70% humidity in Southern Louisiana and Mississippi. That’s great advice. Do you have more suggestions for people who lost their homes and all their possessions? I’m asking for a friend.
I’d be OK with discussing FEMA trailers as over the road vehicles, but I was more responding to the perceived drift of the conversation into the OJ stuff.
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I thought that FEMA trailer looked pretty clean as well. I had never seen one of these on the inside so wanted to get some pictures. Everything worked and it was just somewhat dusty inside from sitting. It was nothing a couple hours of cleaning couldn’t take care of. What is the structure of an RV made from? Is it an OSB/MDF type material and thus the VOC issue?
It says “Cavalier” on the back end so I assume that is the maker. I just looked it up and this appears to be made by Gulf Stream which makes some nicer higher end units as well.
I just found this: http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php?topic=37747.0
It looks like some of the earlier FEMA trailers were just whatever was available. They had the typical RV holding tank and battery systems. I seem to recall the trailer that I saw having a battery system. Maybe this was the older model of FEMA trailers so it might actually be a better one. After a while they had specs to get as many of these made as cheaply as possible. Someone in that other forum mentions that they were never intended to be RVs, just cheap mobile housing. They also mention that the low-VOC materials were quickly depleted by the demand and that anything available was then used.
This is probably another one: http://www.paulsherryrvs.com/rv/piqua+oh/gulfstream+traveltrailer/1499/gulf+stream+cavalier+
That “fixer upper” was listed for $3600 and there wasn’t a thing wrong with the one that I saw so it was a good price.
One of the other forums made mention that the VOC issue is common but that they sit around in lots and are not immediately occupied. Because this was an emergency they went right into use so no outgassing and reduction in the levels had gone on before they were occupied
Golf Coast? Where is the Golf Coast? Sorry but there is a difference between gulf and golf, but ain’t no one gonna be golfing in Florida for a few days. Sounds like massive traffic jam and 25% of the stations out of gas so police escort on tankers coming in. There aren’t too many ways out of Florida so good luck folks. What a mess this year.
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I think all of Florida is the Golf Coast.
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When we moved from NYC to NJ in 1956, I noticed that the rubes in my new NJ town referred to the local Gulf gas station as “the golf station”. 
I knew the difference between those two words at the age of 8, but most of the adults in my town were clueless regarding how to pronounce “Gulf”. Those were largely the same folks who bought Karosene, who occasionally had problems with their Sellenoid, had Corrode on their Bat-Tree terminals, and who parked their cars along the Curve. Some of them even had problems with the Park Prawl in their transmissions.
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Travel trailers, RV’s Camping trailers, whatever you call them have always had a reputation as not the best of quality, even the really fancy ones. That’'s why used ones are quite cheap. A buddy was really into the RV thing and had many over the years. He and his camping friends used to joke that buying one was the easy part, getting all the problems fixed was the hard part.
They are not built that solidly with glued-and-staple construction and wired with Scotch-Locks. If you tow them a lot, they shake apart and the electrics quit. If you park and live in them for longer than a weekend at a time, the interiors wear out very quickly. Do both and they are virtually scrap in 5 years.
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My suggestion is to quit moving the goalposts in order to win arguments.
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I don’t see a problem
Trailers are considered vehicles 
I have heard the depreciation on RVs is pretty bad. I didn’t know that the wiring was so poor. How does that meet code? I mean there is no junction box to contain a short so there is a higher fire risk with this. I know mobile homes have a lower resale value, likely for the same reason. This, and the fact that they have all these VOC-containing materials, may be why they burn down like a roman candle on the 4th of July.
It is too bad that quality isn’t a focus anymore. People buying a really expensive RV would likely be willing to pay a little extra for a more quality build. It wouldn’t take much for some of this stuff.
I had a $600 window AC quit on me not long ago. It turned out to be the start capacitor but everyone said to just dump it as it has outlived its life expectancy. I figured gambling $14 wasn’t a bad idea and it worked. Then the blower motor started to squeal as though it needed oil. The bearings are non-lube ones, meaning that there are no nipples to oil them. I have found directions on how to take it apart and lube them. Odds are that I will never have to do this again as I doubt it will last that many more years but figure it is still cooling so why not? They don’t make things like they used to. People don’t want to pay for quality, they just look at the price tag.
We had a pop up camper and the construction was pretty much 1x2 framing and 1/4" paneling. Of course the outside skin was aluminum. The floor and top were chip board and the cabinet doors just 3/4 particle board. I did a little cabinet overhauling to make it more useful. The wiring though is just 12V for everything so no problem with wire connectors. There was an AC outlet/converter for when you plugged in at a camp site but the lights and everything were stepped down to the 12V. So you could either run everything off the car battery (except the 110V AC) or the plug in at the camp site.
You have to remember that weight is a big deal in any kind of towable unit so everything is kept light weight. Actually you can get a lot of strength out of furring strips and paneling. Most interior hollow core doors are just 1/8" panels glued on a pine frame and honeycomb cardboard in the center and they stand up fairly well. Agree with the shaking though and always carried repair parts like hinges that would shake apart. Always something to fix after a road trip.
I did tear it apart for parts at the end and wish I never would have started it. It was harder to demo than what you would think.
Sometimes the demo of old worn out stuff is harder than you think. I have been there, done that. It is better to sell it as a “fixer upper” for cheap and let the next person deal with it.
I have a 1949 Frigidaire refrigerator in my shop that seems to be related to the Eveready Bunny. But it requires defrosting every few months so it just keeps my beer cold. I wonder what it cost when new and how the price compares to a good one today?