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Nice try, but you literally used the phrase “slippery slope.”

Do you really think I’m so dense that you can pretend you didn’t say what you said and I’ll go along with it?

It’s all fun and games to put down government workers, but in the end, you rely on them for your safety and to provide and maintain the public infrastructure you use every day. What stands out the most isn’t their incompetence, but your lack of gratitude for their dedication.

Of course, when public servants go high, I expect you to go low, so this comes as no surprise to me.

Just because you came up with a silly argument against using the term “slippery slope” to be illogical in your view. But sure we rely on government workers or as you call them public servants, just not all of them. They do not all have the public good at heart and they are not all needed or wanted for the 40% that they consume. I don’t have blinders or rose colored glasses on.

That 40% is straight out of the Washington Examiner, which is a partisan hack rag. Government workers have higher salaries because government workers have higher profession levels than the private sector.

The government needs lawyers, and engineers, and doctors, and fighter pilots. It does not need gas station attendants or Home Depot clerks. So, yeah, there aren’t many minimum wage jobs in the government.

That said, starting salary for a first year associate in a law firm can be as high as $190,000. Government attorneys retire at a salary level far below that. So the idea that the government is paying scandalous wages is, like most… Well, all, of your claims that come straight from Republican talking points, BS.

And yes, I know all the above has nothing to do with cars except that when you make claims as to how cars should be dealt with in urban centers, it’s good to understand how you develop your worldview, which is to look at misleading sources that lie for a living.

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Government workers also have high salaries because of reform efforts like the 1883 Pendleton Act, the 1939 Hatch Act, and the 1978 Civil Service Reform Act, all of which have made federal service a merit-based system.

The corrupt spoils system, which politicized civil service, gave us ineffective government by awarding civil service jobs to unqualified political hacks, but no matter how much we reform the system, anti-government hacks will never be satisfied, and will continue to demonize those who dedicate their lives to public service, all because they need an enemy to attack.

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@bing, I know why you choose to pick on public servants. It’s because you prefer an adversary that doesn’t fight back. You know the federal civil service has a dichotomy between politics and administration, and federal civil servants risk their careers if they get involved in politics, even by just defending themselves from spurious online attacks.

Defense of the politics/administration dichotomy doesn’t make for sexy headlines, and it doesn’t make good click-bait red meat for people who hate what they don’t understand, so you’re not likely to find it on any of the websites you frequent. You’d have to look for it in places like public policy conferences, and public administration conferences, and peer-reviewed journals. Some of the articles can be a slog to read through, so I don’t really blame you for being uninformed, but I do blame you for jumping to conclusions about good people who dedicate their lives to making the world a better place.

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You really assume a whole lot without much to base that on. You think everyone who doesn’t see things your way is just ignorant of the facts, but maybe some of us really do know the facts and that’s what forms our opinions. That same ole saw-you must be just getting your information from all these wayward sites, unlike CNN and MSNBC and the WaPo and NYT etc. that tell the truth. Rolling on the ground, but I’m done.

When you try to twist facts, like making the “slippery slope” logical fallacy something I invented, you put your ignorance front and center on display.

You come at me with hateful rhetoric about public servants and I respond by citing legislation that reformed the federal civil service to make it merit-based.

The knowledge you claim I got from the media I actually got from earning a graduate degree in public administration, but nice try. If you keep swinging, you might eventually hit something by accident.

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AS opposed to Fox Entertainment? Really? Fox just gives opinions with very little evidence to back up their claims. At least CNN and MSNBC will have videos or multiple witnesses to back up their claims. The only reason you think any station but Fox is biased…is because Fox told you to think that way. There are many non partisan watch-dog groups to critique what the news orgs say.

https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/

Fox has been lying to their ignorant viewers for decades. Their hypocrisy is off the chart.

Although I agree with you, any debate over the superiority of one mass media source over another is reductive, particularly since my sources are statutes and academic articles, not mass media.

In other words, I don’t think there is any use in following Bing down this rabbit hole deflection.

One of their talking heads recently informed his viewers that White Supremacists pose no threat to the safety & security of The US, but that The Metric System DOES pose a threat to us as a nation.

I wish that I was kidding, but–unfortunately–this is a 100% accurate account of the recent bizarre ranting of Tucker Carlson.

His main argument is that the members of all white Supremacists groups in this country couldn’t fill a football stadium.

This is probably true…But the number ISIS members in this country couldn’t fill a football stadium either, yet those are the people Fox is most afraid of.

And White Supremacists is not an organization…but an ideology. The El Paso shooter wasn’t a member of any White Supremacist group.\

I’m far more worried about these fanatical white Supremacists in this country then anything else. Cowards with guns and low IQ’s.

Oh Mike. I really don’t care to continue this but an FBI agent reported that the El Paso shooter was upset when nearly every candidate at the debates raised their hand in favor of health insurance for illegal immigrants. But who knows what the unstable mind will use for an excuse. The Ohio shooter was a Liz Warren fan, clearly not a white supremacist. And the DC shooter of the Congressman was a disillusioned Bernie fan. The hysteria needs to be ratcheted down on both sides and let us seek the truth instead. It doesn’t help to calm the unstable fruitcakes of the world when you have people in the news talking about the significance of raising the flag on 8/8 as support for the Nazis, which of course was a Socialist party-compute that one. There are a lot of people in the media, in government, and on the outside that are just nuts, and I’m talking both sides. These people have their agendas that they don’t want to see disrupted whether it be for money, power, ideology, or fame, and they use these situations for their own promotions.

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When I grew up in California, lo those many years ago, if it didn’t have 15hp, you could not go on the freeway. It was on the sign. Last time I was out there for a visit,I noticed the signs were gone and there were bicyclist on the freeway.

When I rode my bike to work, I’d always use the back streets. Last place I’d want to be was on a highway. Of course it was midnight or 2 am so I tried to stay away from any cars.

When have the unstable fruitcakes of the world ever needed a reason to behave like unstable fruitcakes?

This narrative that spreads the blame for acts of terror to journalists is reckless.

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Yes and politicians that blame the President of the US for acts of terror are also reckless as well as clueless.

But there always have been incidents that made us question the conditions of society. I think back to the Texas tower massacre and then the combination of JFK, Bobby Kennedy, and Martin Luther King assassinations. Each was a separate and distinct incident with different causes but it was a time when there were more real journalists and patriotic politicians. Inquiring minds are still asking what really happened with JFK though.

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That is so typical of Fox Entertainment crowd. White terrorists who do mass shootings in the US have unstable minds. But people of color or from the middle east who commit crimes are Terrorists.

Racism is NOT a mental illness. They are TERRORISTS. Just as bad as ISIS or the Taliban.

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The journalists aren’t giving nationally-distributed speeches using white supremacist catch phrases designed to rally the “alt right,” which itself is a white supremacist term invented because “Neo Nazi” has negative connotations.

The president is.

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Not even in the same category as a threat until the KKK flies a plane into a building, in my opinion. Not an advocate for white supremacy, or black supremacy, or any supremacy. Just logical reasoning.

What are these catch phrases?

Some on the left come right out and say they’re socialist. I think that’s an issue as well. A nice thought in theory, but has failed time and again unless you’re the one(s) in power.