A joint venture of 7 car companies

He explained the reason for the high rate: the solar panel company had changed his service provider to a renewable energy company, he has since switched back to Ohio-Edison.

I guess I missed that he did get it changed back… I just noticed that he could charge his car for free at work…

No, they are mine, I am paying for them separately from my electric bill.
But I think Thunder might have hit on what it might be in that it was an introductory thing and prices went up, but I can’t say for certain.

I am quite thankful for it, too.
I’ve been considering getting a Model Y in blue, but someone at work already has. I’m also still waiting for the Silverado ET to see what’s going to happen with them. Ford dealerships near me have F150 Lightnings on their lots, but due to a recall on them at the minute, they cannot be sold/test drove at this time.

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So what? If you like it in blue, buy it. I’d go with the base color since it costs $1000 less. IIRC, the base color is Midnight Silver Metallic, and that looks great IMO. If I were buying a Tesla today I might go for the Model Y given the enhanced range vs. the Model 3 I have now. Still, I’m quite satisfied with the M3.

There is hardly a month goes by that I don’t get an offer on panel or special deal if I allow electronic meter monitoring. All I can say is read read the detail and identify all the loopholes. If you lease, they can put a lien on the property for the lease period. Can’t sell with a lien. Rates are just estimated along with savings. Computer projections again for the future. Etc, etc.,not to mention that some insurance companies are cancelling policies. We are building a new jail and a solar outfit has provided a proposal. There are so many loopholes in the proposal, there is no way to even evaluate it over 20 years. I don’t know what the commissioners will decide but would be fools to sign up for it at this point.

So I know which one is which should I get one and we both happen to be charging at the same day/time.

I recall several years ago when I had my CX-7, I came out of work to go home for the day when I walk up to my car to unlock it. Imagine my surprise when not only did it not unlock, it didn’t even have the button on the door handle that mine had, and the rims were smaller. The one I was trying to get into was pure black where mine was black cherry- both are dark colors and look the same when taken at a glance.
Take that into consideration, along with the fact that there are no real keys/FOBs involved with Teslas. I’m sure the paired phone setup/cards wouldn’t unlock their car, but one can never be too certain. I haven’t looked inside to see if it’s black or black and white, so that might clue me in because I would go with the B/W. The rims would probably be the only tell from the outside as I’d be getting the performance model

I mistook other cars for mine in the past. There are a lot of 2017 silver Accord sedans and occasionally I’d try to enter someone else’s car. My tell was the special license plate frame on my car. I also tried to take my program manager’s rental car after dinner once. My key opened the door but didn’t turn the ignition. It occurred to me I might have the wrong car and located mine a few cars over in the parking lot.

Anyway, color is at the bottom of my list of preferences. When I bought the silver Accord my first choice was blue, but they just sold that one and silver it was. My son in law gave me a hard time because he has a 2016 Accord sedan and they looked almost identical. Another advantage of the base color is that it is almost immediately available. I got mine in less than 2 weeks of placing the order, allowing me to take advantage of the $7500 tax credit before the new tax rules on EVs took effect.

Houses in the deplorable condition you describe should have been condemned and torn down years ago.

If these homes were torn down, where would the owners go? It’s not like their meager social security would go far enough to pay rent, utilities, food, medications, etc… I’ve mentioned in past postings that I volunteer at my local senior center and two local libraries and I’ve met many of these folks and they do not have any of life’s luxuries, some only carry a non-serviced cell phone only because it will still connect to 911. Many of these folks are living in the only home they’ve ever known, some were even born in their home. On two occasions, I have bought QVC TracFones which come with a year’s phone service for under $50 each for some of these folks.

I concur with bringing these homes (if still salvageable) up to code. Admittedly, some are so far gone that they are not even structurally safe anymore. As I wrote in the referenced posting, for a home in San Angelo, TX, to qualify for the “Christmas in April” program, several factors had to be true, the owner had to live in the house (not a tenant), the property taxes had to be current, and if there was a mortgage, it too had to be current.

And if the owner of these homes in my county today are doing all the right things and their finances just do not stretch far enough for these fixes and modernization, then I do not have a problem with this. I do have many, many problems with many of other liberal programs that are in effect today, but I do not want to get this posting deleted…

As I mentioned, some of our seniors are living on sub-poverty level income and qualify for various programs, such as the lunch program through the Department of Aging along with transportation for medical appointments.

The two adjacent cities, Hampton and Newport News, offer low cost housing, but they are little more than tenements, in drug, gang, crime filled areas and many have no nearby facilities like grocery stores or drug stores.

No, I do not want the salvageable houses torn down and those folks can live out their lives in their homes…

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The municipalities that you mention should construct amd operate homeless shelters to house the people that could not afford to maintain their homes in a livable condition.

Ours for the last year and a half is 25.9 cents and that’s just the cost of electricity. There’s another 7+ cents of charges for delivery etc. So around 33 cents.

The rates are due to be set again and will likely fall back to around 18 cents for the next 6 months.

I would be ecstatic if our rates were 11 cents :grinning:

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There is still a $7500 tax credit for the 3/Y. Not sure how much longer, though

Here are the rules directly from the IRS…

Well if I see it is an ap article, I tend to ignore it. 90% opinion and 10% facts. Gotta check the fact checkers is all. I have no idea if the story is true or not but the mayor has been wailing like a two year old, as companies and rich people pull out. A few years ago they invited everyone that didn’t agree with them to leave and guess they are doing that now.

I don’t think the 3 meets the battery qualification since the cells are manufactured in China, then assembled into the battery in the US. That’s why I was in a hurry to get mine before 3/1/2023. The Y battery cells are manufactured in Austin as in battery assembly. That’s why it meets requirements for $7500.

On Tesla’s website it says the 3, X and Y qualify for the $7500 credit.
Price Caps

The vehicle MSRP at time of delivery must not exceed the following caps. This price includes optional equipment physically attached to the vehicle at the time of delivery and excludes software features, accessories, taxes and fees.

Model 3: $55,000
Model X: $80,000
Model Y: $80,000

One could order a Y and include everything- white interior, Red paint, tow hitch, FSD, enhanced autopilot and still come in under the price before taxes.
On that note, I just started the process for buying a performance model Y in silver with white interior. Waiting to hear back about an offer for my Bolt before I can go any further.

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Fueleconomy.gov agrees with you on the Model 3. I’m surprised because the battery cells are from China, unless Tesla is providing them from Austin now. Good luck with your Model Y.

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Thanks. I was given an offer of $17,800 for the Bolt in trade and that is a fair deal to me- vroom.com offered me $21k for it back in May or June.
I took the Bolt in to get GM’s “fix” installed in my Bolt and the car has been nerfed to fubar levels. The software is supposed to reduce the max charge to 80%, but it was only letting me do 50% in the car’s menu, which is about 100 miles, which happens to be the mileage I plug the car in to charge up to (the previous)full 80% range.
Talk about range anxiety now, especially since the journey to theTesla dealership is about half that range from my house.