Car just threw a rod
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Sorry this happened, but sounds like you are at least gonna have to replace the short block, possible long block depending on any damage to the head and or oil starvation to the upper end…
Typically an engine “throws” a rod due to lack of oil to it, once the rod bearing is no longer lubricated properly while running, the rod bearing will spin in the big end of the rod and the bearing “welds” itself to the crank and stops the rod from rotating on the crank journal, at that point it breaks and most of the time goes through the side of the block area, that is called catastrophic damage and non repairable (at a reasonable price)…
Now if the engine was starved for oil for whatever reason then damage to the cam bearings and cam and whatnots will be damaged also…
Basically you need either a used engine, a new (if even available) engine, or a rebuilt/reman engine from like Jasper engines as well as others…
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Usually a broken rod is from a piston seizing from lack of oil. But it could also be a defect or the effect of extreme racing.
What type of condition is the rest of the car in? According to KBB, if it is driveable, its value is:
A 2008 Jaguar XJ XJ8 Sedan 4D has depreciated $2,291 or 31% in the last 3 years and has a current resale value of $4,901 and trade-in value of $2,481
The cost of a remanufactured engine might not be worthwhile if the rest of the car is in less than very good condition.
A Chevy 350 conversion may be the next step for the next owner.
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Replacing the engine doesn’t make financial sense, but if you love the car, maybe you do it. But I’d be worried the transmission would be on its last legs. If I just had to have one, maybe buy a replacement car, not an engine.
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In my world, totaled is used to describe an accident damage situation. You might say your motor accidentally threw a rod but I wouldn’t word it that way.
That would be considered emission tampering. Which MOST people know is against the law.
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Car breaks down.
Towed to mechanic.
Mechanic determines cause of failure and presents repair options and prices to owner.
Owner or their insurance decides if it is economically repairable (i.e. totaled)
Then it is either repaired or sold.
As true as that is, LS swap it with a newer (2009 and up) engine with cats, it would be way better…
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A co worker had one of those VW Golf W6’s with the rare VR-6 engine in it, car was mint, ran off the road unto a water filled ditch and with NO other damage, hydrolocked the engine, insurance totaled the vehicle due to the cost to replace the engine… A totaled vehicle per ins (for all practical purposes) is a vehicle that would cost (around) 80% or more to repair vs the worth of the vehicle… Meaning if a vehicle is worth $10,000 and it would cost $8,000 or more to repair whatever is wrong with it, then it is considered totaled…
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Why would insurance be involved?
There are extended warranties that will cover engine failure under certain circumstances.
It wouldn’t even be LEGAL to swap in a typical 350 small block into this 2008 Jaguar . . . at least in my area
It’s not permissible to swap in a powertrain that’s older than the vehicle’s model year
Not to mention just how the heck would you get the Jaguar’s transmission to work with the Chevy 350 motor?
On that typical 350 short block from the late 1990s that I’m familiar with, one PCM controlled both the engine and the transmission
It would be far better to either install a proper used Junkyard Jaguar engine of the correct type . . .
Or just take the whole Jaguar to the junkyard
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You wouldn’t, you swap the transmission also…
And here is how you control it all…
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/terminator_x/
You would swap in a late model LS with a 6L80 trans, custom mounts and custom driveshaft with some fab work and you have a dependable Jag…
The hard part is getting the dash gauges to work, unless you go aftermarket there too…
I have seen guys LS swap a WRX STI… If you can dream it, it just about can be done, all it takes is some fab work, time and money…
But I agree, just junk it… lol
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Yeah, it’s done and gone. I mean, you CAN fix any car if you want to spend more than the car is worth and you are not driven by basic financial good sense.
I have seen very clean examples of the XJ8 selling in the $5,000–$6,000 range in California of all places.
People talk a good game about “LS swap” but just bolting in an engine is not even half the battle.
Most people understand that the swap part means everything needed to mount in an engine that was never meant to be there, like wiring, exhaust, ecms, fuel system, cooling system, induction and the list goes on… But they sell LS swap kits for lots of vehicles, I have seen WRX STI with a LS swapped into it, was it a PITA, Yes!! Was it stupid fast, Yes!! lol
People put small blocks in Neon’s etc etc, if you can think it, it probably has already been done…
I remember back in the day that dropping a 383 stroker with the TH350 into a Nissan 240Z was a almost normal…
An engine swap is an engine swap, just some are a little more involved than others…
But the LS swaps as 3rd gen Hemi’s and the Coyote engines all have aftermarket support with stand alone engine/transmission ECM’s with wiring harnesses that can be installed into about anything, add a fuel system, not hard to do, and cooling system, lots of aftermarket for that too, and some fabrication skills and bam you have an engine swap…
Where did it go?
BTW, something odd about this forum; the OP only expressed their dissatisfaction about the vehicle, “Totaled” was interjected by the moderator. The result is 16 emails to the OP with advice about how to spend money on automobiles.
I think the OP would be an exception to the racers in your circle.
It wasn’t op that said the car was done and gone
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I hate to tell you this, but the OP was an Ask Someone that is one of those One and Done posters, it has been 22 days and the OP has not logged back in nor have they responded in anyway shape form or fashion, Helping the OP is long gone and as most of these one and done threads go, we are just BSing at this time…
Swapping in American iron into old Jags and Volvos is nothing new, and most of the time it is just a basic junk yard engine swap with a bone stock engine and the vehicle is just a daily driver…My neighbor from years ago had a DD Volvo wagon with a 350ci engine in it, not fast, not a racer, just better than the old junk Volvo had at the time, so just cause I mentioned doing a LS swap does not mean I said to put a 6.2L LT4 in it with 650HP…
For the states that don’t have to go through any kind of emissions testing, You could probably junk yard a 4.8L LS/4L60unit, with some Marketplace electronics (new for around $2K), some new/fab’d mounts and you could probably do the swap cheaper than new/reman Jag engine, or close to the same price..