Can you understand this ? 1. You will not find many people here that have installed this silly device for everyday driving. 2. Most people will find spending about $300.00 for a 1 second gain is foolish. 3. You are not getting the responses you want but you keep coming back and that is why people consider you are Spamming. 4. There are members here that fully understand racing and vehicle performance and yet there does not seem to be a lot of posts saying what a wonderful device you are promoting.
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If you think heâs selling something, why not simply ignore the post or donât buy it? Seems like that would do more towards ending the discussion than trying to list reasons this shouldnât be discussed.
Iâd gladly pay $300 for a 1 second gain 0-60 (although thatâs not exactly what heâs claiming) myself. I doubt any tuner is going to give that unless possibly itâs a turbo car, however.
I donât understand the automatic negativity to new posters. I also donât understand why someone on a forum entitled car talk would think it was out of the question for someone to be interested in a discussion of increasing the performance of aâŠcar.
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the 1/4 mile test on utoob shows a laptop tune outperforming this sensor spoofing kit by a small margin. time is time.
why bother installing wiring and boxes if software can get (slightly) better results.
Let me see if I understand you. You want us to tell you if making your car do 0-60 1 second faster has benefits?
Uh. Yeah. Itâs 1 second faster 0-60.
Now, if you were going to ask me if I actually believe that a $300 plug-in doodad would increase my 0-60 time by 1 second⊠No. No I donât. That would be an extraordinary gain-per-dollar, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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He never actually claimed that gain 0-60. He claimed a 1 second gain 50-80 km/hr or something similar. I didnât want to do the math.
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approx. 30mph - 49.7 mph
Possibly because most people arenât professional engine tuners with a laptop or may not have access to someone who is? Just a thought.
If youâre saying âwhy not buy a mail order tune with no hardware and flash the pcm with their handheld?â, I kinda get that question.
And quit spamming for YouTube. Only joking! 
Ah. Well, 1 second from 30-60 is still a pretty bloody good gain. Iâd need to see before and after runs with calibrated timing equipment before I believed the claim.
Agreed. I wouldnât hazard a guess to the accuracy of the claims. The way I understood the question, though, was âwill this increase in performance be noticeable in daily driving?â To which Iâd say, yes. If itâs making enough hp to increase the acceleration by that margin, then you should notice an increase in engine performance even when youâre not accelerating as fast as possible (normal driving). Then after a few weeks, you adjust and you canât tell the difference any more unless you go back to a stock tune. 
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Driver perception of car performance is usually way off. Or as my old car club used to explain to people, âyour butt dyno is full of ----.â
My wife bought a Hyundai Veloster about 3 minutes after it came out. Its performance numbers are about in line with a 2nd gen CRX Si. I think itâs a couple tenths faster 0-60. A lot of former CRX owners bought them. Then they spent gobs of time and energy on car forums complaining that their old CRX was a lot faster. Like, yeah, your 20 year old memories made that CRX about as fast as a Veyron in your mind. Not to mention everything else was slower back then, which meant people in normal sedans werenât blowing the CRXâs doors off like they do today. 
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Had to go somewhere for details. OP isnât forthcoming at all.
Itâs a variation on chip tuning, so anyone considering it needs to balance all of their vehicle specific options.
Software is a far better solution if both are available at a similar price point. Easier to âinstallâ, easier to revert in the general case.
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Engines with more torque at low rpm usually feel faster than an engine that likes to rev to make power. I have a friend that bought an old blazer with a 350 who was convinced it made 400 hp when he added longtube headers and an intake. He was shocked when he found out the 5.3 in his newer truck made more power than that old 350.
I donât know if that translates well in terms of crx engine vs veloster engine. If nothing else, the 20 year old car probably feels faster with more wind noise, less sound deadening, a few more rattles, etc lol.
To your point about cars being slower back in the day, I had a foxbody Mustang. Those were considered to be relatively fast with their whopping (225 I think?) hp. Iâve never looked, but I wouldnât be surprised if a 5.0 equipped crew cab 4wd f150 of today would outrun an old foxbody 5.0 0-60.
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- I donât think the OP was a spammer. He did not even mention what the tuner was until asked, nor a link to a sales site.
- Increasing performance is usually desirable as long as the driver knows his/her skill level.
3). We all do different things for different reasons, I but a cat-back dual exhaust on just to give the impression I had a higher level model. I only did that when rear ended, so I paid the conversion when the bodywork covered the rear bumper cover replacement.
4). Drove a company owned K car, dangerously underpowered.
5). Had an Escort that was underpowered, could not maintain speed limit on high rise bridges.
6). We have regular posters that do their own thing, such as seeing how many years they can get out of a battery even if it means getting stranded at 2 AM when it finally dies. Others that clay bar their cars twice a year. Nothing wrong with any of it.
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I doubt the claims made, a 1sec drop over that short interval is HUGE.
Whenâs the last time a legitimate poster refused to tell us anything about their car?
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maybe hes hitting the nitrous oxide button at that time. who knows maybe hes talking about a R/C car. lol
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The Veloster probably has a little more torque on the low-end. 90âs Hondas were almost all torqueless wonders. They didnât really start to wake up until north of 4500RPM or so.
The other thing that probably dulled their memory is that a lot of CRX guys swapped bigger engines into 'em. Yeah, a CRX with the Integra GS-R motor in it is definitely faster than a stock Veloster but itâs not really a fair comparison.
I remember people used to call those Mustangs â5-slows.â Especially since they were really 4.9âs. Factory fakery! 
But they were still faster than our stock CRXs. Which they should have been since the biggest engine we could get from the factory here was 108hp.
But today weâve got a really warped sense of what fast is. There are minivans that are faster than an old Lamborghini Countach. When I was in high school/college, if your car did 0-60 in 5 seconds it was considered crazy fast. Now we have a 4-door family sedan thatâll do it in just over 2. Itâs kinda nuts.
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Hey, you canât call em 5.slowâs if you canât out run them! You had to be in the turbo Supra or Grand National crowd to do that lol.
Iâd still love to have any of those cars today, though. Assuming you could find a low mileage one in original condition for a reasonable priceâŠwhich ainât happening.
I never said I called 'em that! My friend had a Foxbody, but it wasnât the 5.0. It was a ratted out old thing that shouldâve been taken out back and shot years before. More rust than metal, and everything was broken on it. The ratchet for the driverâs seatback broke, and he just jammed a 2x4 between it and the back seat to hold it up. I used to give him grief over his natural wood interior.
Iâd take a Supra any day of the week, but Iâll never have one. They want crazy money for those things now. I mean, 60 grand would buy me one heck of a nice, much newer, probably faster car.
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1 second gain on one test means NOTHING. You need to run multiple tests before and after and take an average. A good number to start would be 30 each (before and after). With one test there are way too many variables that can skew the results.
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indeed, I feel some improvements, but still testing it. The manufacturer has claimed 21HP and 42Nm torque increase.