Simoniz GlassCoat

I checked out the guarantee: 7 years on new cars. Car finishes almost NEVER fail within the first 7 years. So what the guarantee means is that if it’s no longer shiney, they’ll probably just reapply it. So now you got two wax jobs for $250-$300 each. Still not worth it.

I remember one poster on here saying that they had either the wax, or the window treatment done and kept having to go back and have it reapplied. After like 3~5 times coming back, they just refunded his money

Am I the only one who remembers [b]Polyglycoat[/b]?
Back in the…'80s?..'90s?..this was a standard last-minute push from dealers in order to “protect your paint” from…bird droppings?..industrial waste?..space aliens?

And, yet, just like other types of dealer hype, that scam was long ago consigned to the dustbin of history.
How long will it take before Simoniz Glass Coat dies the same death in the marketplace, regardless of how often people like 10sub54 extol its questionable virtues?

Glasscoat is a great, long lasting product that will not simply wear away after a few washes. In fact you would have to wet sand the glasscoat to remove it. The 7 year warranty on the product is well woth it, if you are not over paying. In my opinion, you should not have to pay more then $500.00 for this and I only recommend it on new or 1-2 year old vehicles. The reason is it forms a “ceramic glass resin” that seals the paint to protect it and if your paint is not properly cleaned before it is applied then you could be sealing in impurities.
In regards to technicians installing this and it taking 20 minutes, you must not have worked for a reputible place that gives what they offer.
As far as paints not changing over the years, I think you should do research prior to making such a comment. Paints today are more water soluable and are softer due to the enviormental effects and costs. Manufactures often ship vehicles with the white covering to protect against acid rain, bird droppings, etc. If paints were so strong then why would the factories pay money to cover the vehicles? Why do factories not guarantee the paint against the acid rain, tree sap etc?
There are dalers out there that overcharge and are not as honest as they should be, there are also those that are reputible and are honest, so i say if you trust the dealer and they seem fair with what they charge the Glasscoat is well worth it.

I can’t say he is wrong as I have not tried the stuff, nor have I seen any evaluations from someone I know and trust. As far as I can see this is rfg021099’s only post here. Please if I am wrong, let me know and I will edit this message.

Sorry, rfg sounds like either a saleman or a user justifying their purchase. Their statements regarding paint are pure nonsense. The paints are now water-based for application, but they cure to be equal to (if not better than) old formulations. This is just another in a decades - old tradition of dealers wanting to make big money at closing time.

$500 spread out over 7 years is roughly $72. I can buy a lot of car washes for $72 a year

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Wow, nine years after this subject thread was dead, behold another snake oil…er, Simoniz…salesman pops up from a car dealer showroom to extol buying a glass wax warranty!
Will wonders never cease?

Around here, no, they wont😀

I believe old threads pop up because someone googled the subject. My dealer offers mop and glo but not to me. They apply it to all new vehicles. If you pay, you get the warranty, if not you get the initial coat.
This is just another aftermarket warranty. The fine print often requires annual inspections, and booster shots. A neighboring office had a firm selling these products. The expected to pay less then 20% in claims.

Well it’s too late now after almost ten years. Yes the manufacturers have had a problem with the new paints and adhesion but gee when you can spray a car and color sand and machine polish four hours later, that’s pretty tough paint.

The other thing I worry about is putting stuff on the paint that is incompatible with paint repair. If that stuff is a glass coating, how could you do a re-finish for repair work without removing it all? I just stick with normal stuff and forget the space aged coatings.

Apparently this old thread was revived by a Spam posting that has been removed .
@cdaquila - This entire thread is Spam why not close it ?

Hi. I disagree that the whole thread is spam. I also disagree that all thread revivals are bad.

It’s not a wax!
Many responders here clearly have no clue of the product. Also, if the car ever needed to be repainted, then the product must be sanded off; However, a proper preparation for repainting must include sanding, anyway!

Blending paint in to existing paint would have to be sanded, but usually the whole panel would be sanded and repainted. Either way, always inform your body shop that the coating exists.

Applying a good quality natural wax or man-made sealant will not harm the coating and can only enhance it.

Waxes are natural and sealants are man-made equivalents.

Many man-made sealants include natural waxes, Carnauba being the hardest in form of protecting, when compared to other waxes.

From the show “Modern Marvels”

Yeah I dunno. I only use the Meguire’s products and most are listed as body shop safe. According to the film though Simoniz product has silicon which reacts to the oxygen and I try to avoid any silicon. True fish eye eliminator has silicone but I try to avoid it. You can’t sand and spray a whole panel though. You have to blend in to an adjacent panel and feather the spray. Adhesion promoter is often used on the adjacent panel with no more sanding than can be buffed out again. But I haven’t done any refinishing for a few years now.

Simoniz I guess is generic now like Xerox and Kleenex. At any rate what I do as said before, clay bar, machine polish (product depends), Machine synthetic polish, and finally hand wax. Works for me. I used to glaze and then wax but the synthetic makes that redundant.

Body shop safe

You are the first to speak of “Silicone and Body shop safe,” but none of the other responders that I addressed, ever mentioned that, when downing Simoniz Glass Coat, so I will address your concerns about silicone.

Silicone and body shop safe is like the distortion and misconception of animal testing of products, which now has products not tested on rats, but humans, because products are no longer tested on animals, except for the human, which is an animal.

Silicone use in body shop environments only has to do with application of those products open to the air, painting should be taking place inside a spray booth where fresh air is pumped in and filtered and exhaust air is filtered. Proper paint prep and procedures should always be taken to prevent fish-eye, which by the way, is also caused from other issues other than just silicone.

One would not do body repair in the area as one paints the vehicle, that’s shoddy workmanship. Prepsol is usually applied in the spray booth to clean the surface and help stop fish-eye and remove other contaminates, just before painting.

Quote below as evidence from Meguiar’s …

[Feb 9th, 2012, 07:59 AM

[Michael Stoops]

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Re: Which Products Have Silicone???

The majority of our consumer products do, but the majority of the Mirror Glaze do not contain silicones. The MG line is pro body shop line, primarily, and silicones are a big no-no in that arena. In the consumer line they actually make the products easier to work with for the most part.

And really, unless you’re actually working in a body shop or other environment where fresh paint is being sprayed, the presence of silicones is a complete non issue. Sure, there’s plenty of old nonsense on the ol’ interwebs about how silicone will rot your tires, crack your dash, etc but it’s all just that - nonsense.

Michael Stoops

Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar’s Inc.]

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Source: https://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?53487-Which-Products-Have-Silicone #5

Meguiar’s consumer products use silicone in many of those products, only the Mirror Glaze line for professionals does not always use silicone in many of those products.

As for panels, there are door panels, which are smaller than rear quarter panels, which run into roof panels, true it’s a larger surface, but can be sanded.

Also, one must wait at least thirty days before waxing a vehicle, after it has been painted, so a body shop won’t be doing that.

Generic, only through pronunciation of the word, such as “I will Simonize my car with Simoniz wax.” Check Webster’s.

Claying, compounding all diminish the clear coat over time, and that’s the very thing we are trying to protect, through the use of wax, sealants, or coatings such as with Simoniz Glass Coat.

What is your internet in Simoniz? Do you sell it?

No I don’t sell it.
There goes your intended rebuttal!

I am just tired of those making negative comments on the product, without even knowing the product. My only interest in Simoniz is that they make some very fine products as do other companies, and I wanted to straighten out the misinformation on what is said about the product.

Some things will never change, that is what makes this message board entertaining.

Ironically, one of the members above that dismissed this product recently asked for an easy to apply wax because they have arthritis. Waxing the car twice a year is a tradition that cannot be replaced with a modern product.

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That’s so true! Thank you!

On the other hand, there are people whom come here wanting to be educated, so the truth should be told.

Turtle Wax Flex Wax with graphene and carnauba wax is an easy product to apply, even for people whom have arthritis, it can be sprayed on the car and rinsed off, then wiped dry. And that can be utilized over Simoniz Glass Coat, which an arthritic person can pay to have some apply, even though it is not hard to do, either.
But nothing is more cathartic than using Simoniz original Carnauba paste wax!