You must live in Sweden 
What your power company is doing is so āsocialistā that it borders treason in my stateā¦
I think what his power company is doing is great. There is nothing wrong eith socialistic practices if they achieve laudable docially responsible goals
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I was hoping he was joking. Thatās excellent planning and actions on the part of his power utility.
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The other big benefit is eliminating all that mercury going to the dump with those fluorescent tubesā¦
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Iām down to the last few compact fluorescent bulbs. I save them over the winter until the county dump reopens the hazardous materials center. The fluorescent bulbs eventually brighten, but they are pretty dim when I first turn that light on.
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I had a few of those bulbs for a while. All switched to LED. I also had a large 6ā very decorative fluorescent lamp in the kitchen. We really liked the style of lamp. So instead of replacing it - I converted it to LED. Took me about an hour.
@nofyfb_180405 I donāt live in Sweden. I live in Indiana, a very red state. Our investor owned power company realizes that by reducing electrical demand, there is less demand on the power infrastructure and the upgrade doesnāt have to be as extensive.
The free breakfast sponsored by the power company was good public relations. Not only was the lecture after the breakfast informative, but I learned a lot talking to representatives from businesses and industries seated at my table.
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I donāt know of any other business that tries to reduce the demand for the product that they sell as part of their business plan.
So basically, the existing power distribution infrastructure is already opeating just fine and the cost of upkeep is fairly low. But the cost of having to increase its capacity is so high that they would actually lose money even though it would allow them to sell more of their product?
Years ago in Massachusetts, when the electric companies said they wanted to invest $1bn to increase capacity for growing demand, the state said they needed to use that $1bn to get consumers to use less electricity, negating the need for increased capacity.
That resulted in lots of rebates for energy efficient appliances, bulbs, etc. It worked. The need for increased demand never materialized.
@TheWonderful90s I have no clue as to the motivation of our electric power company to encourage energy savings methods. I do see more high voltage transmission lines being installed. I have seen upgrades and expansion of substations.
The power company has negotiated with the state regulatory commission for a rate increase. Perhaps the energy savings incentives make the rate increase more palatable.
I was fortunate enough about 8 years ago to be able to use the energy savings incentives for my church, and was still felt comfortable being up on a ladder rewiring the flourescent light fixtures for ballast bypass LED tubes. Today, at 82 years old, I donāt feel comfortable up on a ladder.
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Green energy like wind and solar donāt produce electricity consistently, requiring the grid to transport it from one location that is producing to another far away location where the wind isnāt blowing and the sun isnāt shining. This might be why more power grid capacity is needed even though over all electricity consumption in the US hasnāt increased in 15 years.
In Minnesota the special interest groups have managed to pass legislation that restricts expansion, requires a shift to wnd mills and solar, and the providers must follow. Thus we donāt know how this will turn out in the end for rates and supply. The tail wagging the dog. I believe this is nation wide. Of course there are other targets too. Nothing against led. I like them and have spent several thousand on them. A garage led burned out and I paid $30 for a new one compared to $2 for an old fashioned one. I have 13 of them so hope they all donāt go dark in the same month. Even have a 3000 lumen one in the garage attic which is great.
My apologies - I shouldāve EXPLICITLY added the
āATTENTION: SARCASM!ā at the end. To my defense: I thought it was obvious.
Now seriously. Anything that makes sense is ultimately un-American. Sad. BIGLY sad.
@MikeNH
And how did Seabrook end? I knew somebody who worked there, and it was a Chernobyl waiting to happen.
Bottom line: critical (and potentially dangerous) projects should NOT be trusted to private for-greed outfits because they will eliminated life on earth for a dime.
Donāt know what you said but comedy and sarcasm are windows to truth.
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Itās not LED per se. Itās some kind of honorable ge that told its Chinese supplier to make it for a fraction of the penny so that patriotic American corporation could make 10,000% profit instead of 9,900.
From my experience, when you buy the same LED directly from China, it lasts forever but if it comes from Home Depot and proudly says āGEā on the box, it burns out in no time. Must be a coincidence. LOL
@LoudThunder
Iāve done a lot of - actually, ALL - work, including electrical and plumbing, some very extensive, on three houses Iāve owned over the last 25 years, and never had an issue. A couple of months ago, I installed a split AC/heat pump unit, and it works perfectly. Iām in process of complete bathroom remodeling as we speak, and also managed plumbing and electrical work successfully.
Iām sure there are things I donāt know but there is nothing I canāt learn without paying ridiculous āprofessionalā prices. The reason hellcare āprovidersā get away with extortion is because I canāt do my own root canalā¦
Do you want me to paraphrase?
The US is hardly concerned about it either.
Iāve flown into Indianapolis airport a few times. That is one massive solar farm - and growing.
You could if you were Tom Hanks with only āWilsonā for an assistantā¦ L 
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