Im glad you don’t condone Drunk Driving! I thought you were with your stories. There are a few here that DO condone it so its easy to see why i may have thought that.
I do feel for your loss. Very sorry for that to happen to someone you know.
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I am in agreement with your example. The accessory to murder should have a lesser penalty. I don’t think it sounds ridiculous. The penalty for a crime should be proportional to the severity of the crime. It could be you some day, giving someone a ride and they go crazy and decide to commit a crime, and you receive the same penalty even though you really had nothing to do with it. Say you drop someone off at the store, and you didn’t know about their shop lifting habit. Suddenly you do when you receive the same penalty they get for shop lifting when they finally get caught.
Compare that to up to 50 people PER DAY for vehicles.
I think that your imagination has overpowered your thinking . I can not think of anyone who has ever posted support for drunk driving.
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No, we just had someone in the thread say they dont blame someone for driving drunk in Florida. Its there in black and white.
Of course it does! Some drunk on a bike suddenly swerves out into the traffic lane and you swerve to avoid them hitting or getting hit by another car. But let’s just look at the obvious- you don’t think the drunk is putting themself in danger? I for one do not relish the thought of mowing someone down on a bike because they were drunk and couldn’t keep the thing under control. Aside from the trauma of the accident, there is the inevitable lawsuit you have to endure as well. Yes, driving anything drunk should be a citable offense.
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Especially since they didn’t agree at all. One or both are wrong.
I don’t see anyone condoning this. Can you give us a hint?
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Here you go
Again, this is about taking someone’s CAR DRIVING LICENSE away for riding a bicycle while drunk. A driver’s license is not required to ride a bicycle, so it doesn’t stop future bicycle riding. They can be taken to jail for public intoxication or whatever to they are posing a danger to themselves or others.
If the legal consequence for riding a bicycle while drunk is actually WORSE than driving a vehicle while drunk, what do you think that encourages people to do? I’m assuming in this case that someone is more likely to get caught on the bicycle since their loss of balance would be easier to see. They’re going to lose their driver’s license either way if caught…
So people are actually encouraging drunk driving by making the alternatives illegal. I’d imagine people will that it’s not safe for a drunk to walk home either, they could step out in to traffic.
How often does this occur? Next to never, I bet.
I think it was a bad joke.
That’s true. In fact, taking away their DL doesn’t stop them from driving either. Most drunks don’t care if they have a license or not.
I didn’t see where it was worse. In either case, you lose your license. I’d say getting caught in the car is worse. You can’t get charged with lots of other infractions like reckless endangerment riding a bicycle. AFAIK.
So we agree, same punishment either way.
The alternative to drunk driving is not drunk bicycle riding. The alternative is not being drunk in public period. If you must drink until you cannot function properly, then go to the store and buy what you prefer AND GO HOME WITH IT. Then they can get schmidt faced all they want.
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+1
A couple of weeks ago, in NYC, a mother and her two kids were mowed-down by an SUV–while the pedestrians were crossing the street on a green light. Mother and one child were killed, and the other child remains hospitalized in critical condition.
The woman driving the SUV was on her 5th or 6th license suspension, and she also had no insurance. Clearly license suspension meant nothing to her. She has been charged with vehicular homicide, and–hopefully–will get many years in the slammer.
You stay off the roads
Period
Full stop
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Maybe that’s not the proper way to look at it. Her drinking is out of control. Her thought processes never get past where to find another drink. I wouldn’t be surprised if she does car about the people she hit but is incapable of thinking that way. I’m not condoning her drunk driving. She is still responsible for two deaths and anther’s ruined life.
Addiction–including addiction to alcohol–is a disease, and unless we begin putting more resources into all phases of public health, including addiction and mental illness, we are going to spiral downhill ever faster.
OK Rick, now I see where you are getting this from…
You see with this being an open forum, there are members (we have at least 2 of them) that basically don’t contribute anything useful on here, I refer to them as our Court Jesters and for all practical purposes are here for entertainment purposes only and should not be taken seriously… So I understand your confusion now…
We may not agree on what is the best car to drive, or what design brakes are best or whatever, but these Court Jesters often have posted crap that could get someone hurt and is just plain bad advise and or wrong, their thinking is unlike anything a rational person would think…
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I don’t know why you think that.
Florida is considered the 2nd most libertarian state in the US behind New Hampshire. Being libertarian is the direct opposite of police state.
Contrary to popular geography, Florida is not “southern”. The most “southern” part is along the northern border. There are as many Southern Baptist churches in Florida as Georgia. Georgia has half the population of Florida, so a higher concentration of Southern Baptists.
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Don’t forget, it’s the S. Baptists that keep counties dry, legal booze interferes with their moonshine profits.
I was raised Baptist, but a different sect that allows drinking and dancing! The pastor even had champagne at my sister’s wedding.
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AFAIK there are two conventions: American and Southern. My family attended the First Baptist Church of Washington, DC, and they were a member of both conventions. A DC thing I guess. Southern Baptist membership was clear at communion. Christ’s blood was represented by Welch’s Grape Juice, not wine.
Fun aside: the body was represented by matzoh bread. Our pastor and the rabbi at the synagogue a couple blocks away were great friends, often eating lunch together. As a sign of friendship, the rabbi baked matzoh bread himself for us to use at communion.
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