And only 1 county in Florida is completely dry and one which allows beer sales, not liquor. Maybe so it doesn’t cut into moonshine sales. But both are surounded by wet counties.
Both counties are in the northwest of the state in areas that are more accurately described as “southern”.
Two other groups that I am aware of, though it has been a very long time, General Conference (our church) and Northern Baptist. Those groups may or may not still be around.
I did not know Florida had any dry counties! When I lived in Utah, wine and liquor was purchased at a state run liquor store. You took your bottle to your favorite bar and bought the setup which cost the same as a mixed drink in another state, bars only served 3.2 beer. My previous assignment was at an altitude of about 50 feet, going to 4500 ft the low alcohol content still got you drunk.
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“It’s a damn long time between drinks”, is usually attributed to one or two 19th Century NC Governors, but it became a popular sentiment in the 1930s, among people who were traveling from DC to Atlanta via RR train. Even though Prohibition had been repealed, bars on the those trains were kept closed while they traveled through both NC & SC because those two states did not allow liquor to be sold by the glass.
We used to visit my aunt in Greenville, SC. I recall hearing about drinking clubs. They were the only place that you could get a drink. Members would get their bottle from a bartender when they arrived and return it when they left. Fraternal organizations like the Elks were quite popular tor this reason. This was in the 1950s and 60s.
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In the '80s & ‘90s, I ran periodic Group Counseling sessions for kids with an alcoholic parent. Almost all of those kids’ fathers spent their evenings at the local Elks Club.
Just saying…
My mother and father joined the Elks in the mid-1960s. After he died she kept going. Both drank, but not excessively. Eventually she started dating again and met many of her beaus at the Elks. I never saw any of them drunk.
That local Elks Lodge was clearly different from the one in the town where I worked. While the Elks Clubs perform good works in their local communities, there were a whole lot of mothers and kids in my school’s community who cursed the name of that group because of its association with their alky family members.
YMMV…
Free Will Baptist is another one of hundreds of different types of Baptist churches, and yes the 2 biggest are the ones jtsanders mentioned, my dad graduated from the Free Will Baptist College in late 60’s, it moved from Nashville to Gallatin some years ago and changed the name to Welch College…
Just to name a few other major Baptist groups are the Primitive Baptists, Progressive National Baptist Convention, Reformed Baptist Church, New Testament Association of Independent Baptist Churches, North American Baptist Conference, National Association of Free Will Baptists, National Baptist Convention of America, National Primitive Baptist Convention, Baptist General Conference…
The only thing she will understand is incarceration. Jail or mental hospital. Her choice. No parole either way.
Not on personal freedoms though. They rank 22nd.
https://www.freedominthe50states.org/personal
Fun fact. 3.2 beer regulation is alcohol by weight. But by volume it’s really 4.0 which is how all other beers are sold by.
Most lite beers are 4.0. Ergo all those lite beer drinkers have been drinking 3.2 all along.
This site places Florida 2nd in overall freedoms.
And the very same site you referenced but overall freedoms not specifically personal freedoms
https://www.freedominthe50states.org/overall/florida
Considering just one personal freedom index - gun rights, places Florida 38th nationally. Yeah, that seems very wrong.
Florida also places 16th in alcohol freedoms, that also seems quite wrong.
I have been a n=member of a Southern Baptist church for over 50 years. Never met a moonshiner. We are barely a denomination in the traditional sense. Each church is independent and autonomous.
We own our own buildings and hire and ordain our own pastors.
We may or may not send delegates to the national convention. The convention may vote on and pass resolutions, but those resolutions are not binding on the local churches.
There has never been a nationally accepted set of doctrines. The closest we have come is statements of faith that have been proposed but never agreed to by the churches.
The only thing we generally agree on is that Jesus is the son of god and that the bible is the revealed word of god
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I’d rather have both but if I had to pick I’ll keep my personal freedoms over economic freedom any day. If you wish otherwise more power to you. I’m not the least bit offended or concerned. It’s your life to live. Each his own.