Good one Whitey…Took me a couple of seconds
And I don’t think the manufacturers will introduce MILLIONS of diesel vehicles any time soon…It’ll be a slow process over many years…And the refineries will easily be able to adjust.
There’s also a process to convert Coal to Diesel…which would supply enough diesel for the WORLD for at least 100 years (some say as much as 500 years)…Hopefully LONG before that we’ll have found other cheaper ways to power our cars.
Couldn’t that diesel from coal be further refined into gasoline?
Good question…Not sure…I do know that Coal to Diesel IS possible…
It is possible but expensive .
Germany did it during WWII .
I guess I’m the exception to that rule, because the ONLY car I’ll drive is a manual.
What took you guys so long to notice?
Safety is a factor in that there are fewer car-b-que’s after an accident. Unleaded is much easier to light aflame than diesel.
Economic factors may not play as much of a part when it comes to price at the pump since diesel can be as expensive, sometimes more expensive as unleaded, but not super. That has not always been the case, though. The price gap between diesel and unleaded has narrowed only over the past five or so years. I suspect that some people are simply ‘grandfathered in’ when it comes to buying a diesel car, i.e., once you go diesel, you never go back. It may be more of a factor when one considers that diesels are generally lower maintenance than gas cars. Car maintenance is also very expensive here. The expenses that a business has to pay in the form of taxes and fees are passed on to the consumer. Thus, it is very expensive to run a business here in Europe.
Just SLOW…
Yup…I agree 100%>.but that article I posted talks about a new process that is suppose to be much cheaper…
First of all, like @texases says above, it’s a big problem with NOx emissions. In North America the emission standards
( http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/ld_t2.php )
are the same for diesel and gasoline, differnet from Europe.
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards )
By definition diesel gives much much more NOx, and to reduce this is highly expensive.
Second, because the price of a car in Europe is very high, I don’t think that a NA customer will pay so much.
For example a car like MONDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2a2JerrjOI
is 29000 EUR, and that means 40000 USD.
Why do you think Ford Europe is almost 1 bn USD profit, and Ford North America is 12 bn USD loses?
I have a 2002 VW diesle and I get about 45or so MPG. It has a turbo (TDI = Turbo Diesel Injection) I bought it new in Ohio. Just look they are there.
Myself I dislike the “extra” equipment and “extra” technical procedures required with the diesel. I don’t like having an expensive injection pump with a pump timing procedure out of reach for most and that turbo thing, well you can keep that expensive little beast. You can also keep that glow plug circuit all all the hardware that goes with it (this is not made up for by not having sparkplugs). And that intercooler device, well I don’t think I really want to buy one of those so I guess I stick to a gasoline engine.
I won’t buy a car that isn’t offered in manual anymore.
Makes buying cars so much more difficult, as sometimes, the manual only comes in a complete stripped down version of the car (Sonata GLS), and the options I want only come in the upper trip levels (Sonata SE).
My Altima isn’t sold in a manual in the US market, come comes with a manual for the 2.5 S version in Canada. The cars are all made here in the US, either in Tennessee, or in Missouri.
The Infiniti G series sedans offers a manual transmission in their most expensive G37 version. It only comes in RWD. The AWD versions cost less. And the G25 sedan doesn’t offer a manual transmission at all, AWD or RWD versions.
Why can’t I get the cars I like with the transmissions I want?
I want to shift!
BC.
Well, as time passes, more and more engines in gasoline cars are becoming Direct Fuel Injected. This means that you get that Injection Pump, and everything that comes with it. These pumps have been in use in diesels for how long? How often do you hear about them having trouble?
As for the glow plug, and all the hardware that goes with it, you realize that its just a relay, and a temp sensor circuit, correct? If the temp sensor says the temp is below xx degrees, then the relay applies 12 volts to the glow plugs, which then heat up, and allows the diesel fuel to ignite under compression. not really that complex.
I’m guessing you don’t like electric cooling fans for your radiator, since its the exact same technology?
As for turbos, that’s the way manufacturers are able to get better performance out of smaller engines in vehicles today. The 1.6 Liter Turbo DFI gas engine in the Nissan Juke makes more hp and torque than the 2.5 4 cylinder engine in the Nissan Rogue. It even gets better gas mileage, if you’re not a boost junkie.
An Intercooler is simply a radiator in the air intake system, to help cool the intake charge before it gets into the intake manifold. Its a RADIATOR. There’s NOTHING complex about an air to air radiator.
You are making a big deal about nothing.
Don’t want to advance, just because you might have to learn something new.
But, that’s the reason why your name is Oldschool, I guess.
Nothing wrong with new technology, only the people who don’t know what to do with it.
BC.
Quite a bit of difference between a diesel injection pump and a fuel pump for a vehicle using direct injection and I have seen quite a bit of trouble with them (for me starting with VW and GM). One big difference is the timing procedure with the diesel pump, have you ever timed a diesel pump? The outlay for equipment is not extreme but you have to have it and you have to know the procedure. I guess you forgot about the actual glowplugs them selves when you listed the hardware used with a glowplug system and have you ever taken a look at just how many TSB’s there are out there relating to glowplug issues? Keep your turbo, just something more to spend money on and no one said an intercooler was complex in theory, just expensive.
I will refrain from personal attacks.
How does he feel about flushing toilets?
Just stoned?