Valvoline NextGen oil, your thoughts?

If the price were right I would use it.

Although Walmart’s SuperTech has not let me down in price nor performance so it would have to beat the price which likely is difficult.

And you would rather use oil that has been sitting in the ground for thousands of years ? Maybe, just maybe, the more an oil is “recycled” the better it is. Think of synthetic oil from coal. That doesn’t present a pretty picture either if all you think about is it’s previous form. As long as it’s API certified, use it.

Although Walmart's SuperTech has not let me down in price nor performance so it would have to beat the price which likely is difficult.
It's likely we who use the store brand are already buying recycled oil. There is just no reason to market it that way.

@whitey

Isn’t there some sort of disclosure law if that were the case?

The API says that as long as it has the API seal on it, any motor oil can be used; even rerefined oil. But refining used oil appears to be much different from refining virgin mineral oil. Here’s an interview from Scientific American that discusses rerefining used motor oil.

All oil base stocks today meet the tough API standards but 25% of the fluid in the oil is additives which are essential to the performance of the lubricant. If used oil has all the metal particles removed and the additives replaced it is probably as good as virgin oil with the additives. That said, would I save 25% on the price of an oil change (which includes the overall cost of the labor, old oil disposal fee, new oil filter, and new oil) - No.

If I save $15 per oil change every 7500 miles the total savings over 150,000 miles is $300 and that is too small a return on any potential risk of increased wear on the engine. Where people throw money down the drain and causing unnecessary environmental impact is in replacing their oil every 3000 miles. Today’s engines and lubricants are fine (and oil tests confirm this) for at least 7500 miles and that is for standard oils and not synthetics.

For my sample size of one, I’ve used it no problem. I don’t go out of my way to get it, but if it’s the brand on sale when I decide to pull the drain plug, it’s what goes back in.

Autozone in my area is now giving a full rebate for recycled oil + one 5 qt jug of this oil. I would say pretty good deal. It seems like buyers are shying away from this product.

I dunno, for the $40-50,000 invested in rolling stock, I want the new stuff. Probably nothing wrong with it but I’ve found worse ways to throw money away than fresh oil. And besides, any money spent is recycled through the economy so not really thrown away.

The next gen is the same price as the reg Valvoline in my stores, I know that new oil has long molecules in it and as oil breaks down from heat and pressure, it is the molecule chains themselves that break and become shoeter. I don’t know if they have any wy of reversing this.

I think most of what happens to oil is that the additives get used up and contaminated, not that the base hydrocarbons are affected.

I sell 10w40 and 20w50 but they our not the fastest moving oils all the new cars today want 0w,5w siomething all the new oil is like water

? They list 5W-20 and 5W-30 NextGen on their web site.

The oil is probably fine. The name is all about marketing and providing a name that has a hook to it… :slight_smile:

The old re-refined oil was called Oilzum and nobody wants to buy something with that name. I think they got rid of the name in the 70s. There were probably other names but I don’t remember the old old days or the new old days. Those were the good old days.

Oil doesn’t get “tired” and lose some kind of “oiliness,” like aging skin or muscle tissue or husbands do. It simply becomes contaminated by metal from piston rings, water from the environment, etc. and these products can easily be removed. Some additives will also lose their beneficial properties, but these can easily be added back in the refining process – the same with any component in the raw oil that changes its structure. Let’s face it – even fresh “virgin oil” from the purest and most natural hole in the ground contains carbon, hydrogen, etc. which has been recycled by Mother Nature many times over the past few billion years.

So all our motor oil is, in an important sense, recycled oil. If it comes from a reputable company, what’s the worry?

I would use anything on the shelf except BP/CASTROL oil. British Petroleum is EVIL. I trust Valvoline.

Recycled oil may be in our future. It may be good…But as @Bing said…it’s a $40k - $50k investment to take a chance on. And personally I’m not willing to take that chance just yet. Let’s wait a few years and see how well those engines that use it are holding up.

“Oil doesn’t get “tired” and lose some kind of “oiliness,” like … husbands do.”

Meow!

I’m just as oily as I ever was!

I’m curious as to why Kaa Talk thinks BP is evil.

The odds are quite high you’re supporting BP in ways you don’t even imagine; unless you don’t use tires or drive on asphalt along with countless other products.