Looks like it is a 3.7 hour job, 4.3 if replacing both cam seals and crank seal…
At $200 per hour
3.7 = $740.00
4.3 = $860.00
How common is it to replace the water pump as part of the job on the Honda V6?
In my little part of the world, in general, I have seen water pumps start leaking within a month (Honda included) of replacing the timing belt only, so most all shops replace the water pump with the timing belt being done at regular interviews…
That is why most timing belt kits include a water pump… I always use the Napa kits… The extra labor is only about 0.3 hours, it is just not worth not replacing the water pump…
On my 2 pathfinders I replaced the water pump every other timing-belt change. It’s kind of preventative maintenance. The pump was behind the timing-belt which meant you’d have to do a timing belt replacement to replace the pump.
I assumed @pokemonyouandme123_193319 was going the DYI route. The prices he quoted in his opening post were from the Honda Dream Shop, an online store.
That is the manufacture’s (Honda) site. That site has a parts catalog with manufacture suggested retail prices, useful for comparing pricing with the local dealer’s prices to see if they inflating the prices.
Fair point.
However, on that site, for the parts that you put into your cart, it offers you the choice of:
- Ship from Honda
- Pick Up At Dealer
- Install At Dealer
Based on his opening post, I figured he would have had the parts shipped to him from Honda.
Maybe I assumed incorrectly.
Rumor has it that in your state, in the affluent area where our friend George lives, the Ford dealer has pushed that labor rate so far north it’s gone past the north pole and is hovering in the mid $300 range.
I don’t doubt it
My friend @George_San_Jose1 lives in Ballerville, so I would expect sky-high labor rates
Even where I’m at, I believe labor rates at dealers are roughly $250/hr
If only there was a way to make an engine that didn’t need a huge outlay of cash every 7 years or 100-150k miles…
What if there was a way to make timing components durable?
If only they could make an engine with a timing chain instead of a timing belt… 
@Old-Days-Rick what’s new?
If only they could make an engine with a timing chain instead of a timing belt…
Even timing chains/guides require placement at some point.
Tester
And the cost to replace a timing chain is several times more expensive than a belt. Most belts can be replaced by a decent back-yard mechanic. Timing chains are a lot more complicated - especially since you need to deal with OIL. In some engines, you have to drop the oil-pan.
Very true, but on average, timing chains are way more durable and last much longer than timing belts do… Most/all timing belts have maintenance intervals, whereas most timing chains don’t…
Heck, most timing chains out last the automatic transmissions in the vehicles…
There are exceptions to most every rule…
Well I just don’t remember. The one 3800 needed a chain at 360k. The other one needed a timing cover before 500k. Just don’t remember if they replaced the chain or not. I suppose they did. Most people don’t expect to drive 300k before death anyway but good luck find in a 3800 of 90s vintage.