You don’t hear us complaining…you do hear it a lot from the people at the front end. Ours is a private road over a mountain that eventually runs by a lake. That’s why the road is regulated as to how it’s maintained on our end. You may think regulation is bad. But the polution levels for improperly maintained roads is unacceptable and only regulating them , can the quality of our lake be maintained. Being privately owned, It cannot be altered by paving which, if you lived by severe run off, is not the solution anyway.
Yours is a typical attitude where you don’t see the opportunity that advice and engineering provided us. When your road disappears in minutes and swallows up your truck in a 6 foot deep ditch that appears where once there was a road, you look for alternatives that the private contractors refused or are too ignorant to provide. The local county government provided the education and the support. You call it an entitlement, I call it democracy. We have control over our land while the front with a private corporate association, hand money out in ignorance to contractors who take advantage of them and take over their right of way.
Their end is managed by your mind set, refusing the support of engineering council is the main reason we have two and not one road association. We maintain our ownership of our private right of way, they turned theirs over to a corporation. They are living in expensive ignorance, we live in an efficient democracy where everyone has a vote each year instead of a bill.
You are under the false impression that we don’t work. We do ALL the road work our selves…but properly. They have access to the same advice they refuse to take advantaged of it. Their leaders have convinced them too that the county engineers know less then the local contractors who are out for blood. Guess you do too. In stead of giving money to private contractors, our association buys some of the equipment so we can work ourselves.
With certification, that the county provided an opportunity to have, we can inspect and sign our own permits for lake side work. We have more, not less freedom. Of course CSA, we think differently…all govt. is bad vs there is a place for good governance. Of course polution may not be an issue to you where it is to us.
" But the polution levels for improperly maintained roads is unacceptable and only regulating them , can the quality of our lake be maintained. "
We on our road live on a pristine remote 10,000 acre lake. I have water on 3 sides of my property (the cul-de-sac does, too.) The County plow trucks, when they ride down the road with plow blades usually lifted (snow already removed by residents), dump unbelievable amounts of salt on our road, sometimes gravel, too.
The salt makes a mess and keeps the road from ever drying and the sand/gravel turns our paved road into a messy gravel road until it washes away. The salt washes directly into a canal that flows into the lake. On the other side of the canal is a highway with a storm ditch on the opposite side that flows into the canal. The tons of salt that the County dumps on the higway goes into the lake water from both sides and kills lawns on its way.
Pollution ? Is all that salt beneficial to our lake or is it a bad thing ? How about our ground water ?
The salt question comes to mind every time I travel to the north, CSA. Those huge salt piles obviously get used and restocked and once thrown on the roads it washes off to ditches and ultimately to rivers and lakes unless the ocean is nearby. How much damage will be done before someone decides to look into the situation? In the rural south the use of nitrogen on crops is monitored to control runoff to rivers and it seems a much less toxic chemical than salt.
As I Travel The 20 Miles Of Rural Highway To Get To My Nearest Town I Don’t Expect The Roadway To Be Plowed And Salted The Entire Way Nearly Every Day During Many Months Of Winter Weather, But It Is.
People are used to it and travel at high speeds getting in lots of bad wrecks. What would be so wrong with saving money and the environment and the cars and plowing, but not salting the roads and having people figure ou they need to allow more time and drive slower ?
To me it’s too much government and too much waste every where I go or look.
There are stringent regulations controlling road runoff in areas that use salt on the roads. Around aquifers there is no salt allowed, and the “Jersey barriers” are used as much to direct runoff into sewer systems for treatment as for protection against lane crossover. The challange is that there are millions of miles of roads that were built over the last century, before the regulations existed, and making them all meet current regulations is a long, long process. Right now a road I drive every day, the Everett Turnpike, is being upgraded, as well as Interstate 93 and a number of other roads in NH. But it costs zillions of dollars and takes many years to do this. It’ll be a very long process.
What would be so wrong with saving money and the environment and the cars and plowing, but not salting the roads and having people figure ou they need to allow more time and drive slower
That might be reasonable here in southern NH. But not so much in the White Mountains…Or in places like Upstate NY or Upper Michigan where those areas get so much more snow that if they didn’t salt - by Feb there would be 6-10 inches of packed ice on the roads…I know…that’s how ever winter was for my town. They didn’t start salting the roads until 1972. And some roads they still don’t salt.
Mike, in the section of the Everett going through Manchester and Hooksett the grass center median is being removed and Jersey Barriers and drainage systems installed with the pavement being brough right up too the barriers. It looks horrible. Looks like NJ. But the reason is to upgrade the crossover barriers and install runoff control. I’m guessing, but I suspect the reason it’s being done in that section is because it runs along the river.
Without salt around here, everyone is in need of 4 wd. We use very little salt on our private road. We have decided, perhaps where CSA and I agree, that if the road is steep and icy, people will drive slower and there will be no drug dealers on the corner.
As far as visiting the grandchildren in Litchfield is concerned, it’s a good place to raise kids but there are too few golf courses.
How many do you need ? I’ve belonged to our local golf course for a couple of decades. I play on a couple of leagues. I don’t recall ever playing a hole exactly the same twice. The course changes with weather condition and is constantly evolving and improving over time. We’ve got a hilly links style open front nine and a wooded back nine with plenty of water. It’s good to play a game with friends.
Sometimes I’ll play a different course, but that gets expensive for my cheapskate thrift-minded budget. I pay a family membership in spring and since I always walk (no cart fees) the entire season is no greens fee/no cart fee, unlimited “free” golf.
The course (spring, summer, fall) offers me much more variety than does the treadmill (winter) at home when it comes to exercise, which is actually why I’m active in both. I always play golf for the exercise and that way I am not discouraged by my usually normal mediocre round.
The whole family has always played, too, which is neat. Son and daughter were both valuable assets to the High School teams. My daughter may play in college next fall.
We’ve got a couple feet of snow on the ground and it’s looking like the April 1 course opening is only going to include open bar, not like last spring. My treadmill log has 6 months of running, 7 days/week and I’m itching to play golf. Maybe I’ll go out on the lake. Ever try that with an orange ball ? When the snow is crusted over so it’s hard it’s kind of fun on the rare sunny day. I scribe a large circle for the “cup” (no putting).
"how many do you need ? " CSA
There are more then a dozen courses within a 45 minute drive of where I live…so I’m spoiled.
I did not play while raising the kids, so they ran track, played basketball and soccer. My son in law is the only one in the family who plays, but we both found it too time consuming to raise a family and play.
It’s great to have the kids play though which is ideal for what I feel, is the greatest retirement activity there is…next to sailing and ball room dancing and swimming and… I envy you that you have gotten your family involved. It’s a great family sport. My son was a 6’6 BB player and my daughter used to get in bar fights…no golfers there !
Life is too darn short !
For the last few years, , we have been playing winter league play on simulators twice a week and I get all Golf I want. A friend who runs the winter club, gets us in on Sundays to practice as well. For what they are, they do very well and we’ve had a good time all winter long…so when the snow is off, we’ll be ready. IMO, if my hands are cold and I have to wear anything more then a sweater, we go inside and play. I’d rather be skiing then freezing playing golf. So, I’m a golf whimp. I have a full membership at an 18 hole course, a partial at a nine, and play several others on a rotating basis by starting early and finishing by noon. Just in time for the wind to pick up…
I play for exercise too, but sometimes get a bit competitive when $$$$$ is involved. Money is always involved with the guys I play with it seems…btw, I am a huge Shawn Clement fan…know him ?
Besides @mike, we get a chance to recycle lost and found balls from one course to another.
Sebego Lake…Not That I can remember.
But if you get up there again, try Fox Ridge in Auburn. I those I have played in So. Maine, one of the most interesting.
