Salmon killing tires

Your Topic Title is misleading, I think you’ve misread the title of the post, it is not about Salmon Killing Tires… L :grin: L . . .

it is about chemicals in tires that are killing the salmon… :fish:

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Well just a word of caution. We have tribes here too that have pretty much killed off the walleye population in the big lake. They aren’t exactly interested in conservation and will fish till extinction. In other words let them complain
Kinda tired of it. Sportsmen are careful about insuring the sport continues. Start a salmon farm if you want to make a business out of it.

Tribes aren’t all the same. Many are honestly interested in conservation. It’s their country, any way.

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I was stationed at Davis-Monthan AFB, in Tucson, AZ. in 2000 and for my birthday my wife treated me a Fly Fishing Excursion (and class…) at the White Mountain Indian Reservation, East of Show Low, AZ. A Caucasian Husband/Wife team-taught the Class. It was late fall and we stayed at the ski resort… The fishing was out of the various artificial lakes created to provide water for making artificial snow to augment the natural snow. The lakes were stocked with trout and all fishing is catch and release…

While the Fly Fishing Class was going on, there was also a guided elk hunt going on. We mixed with the hunters and they told us that the cost to participate in the hunt was a minimum of about $2,000, just to get to go (accommodations, permits, guide, etc…) and if they shot an elk, the cost could go over $10,000 (cost of the elk, bonus for guide, butchering, etc…); the hunter could keep the head, the hide, and one quarter of meat.

We asked our instructor why the Apaches were not also conducting the class and he explained that Apache do not fish and for him to conduct the class he pays the reservation as an independent contractor.

He told us that the Apache also do not eat fish. This was despite the fact that the rivers and streams of the Southwest were well-stocked with fish. The Apache do not eat fish because they shy away from water as they associate water with thunder.

Final thought, if you fish there too, the Flashback Pheasant Tail Gold Beadhead Nymph works best in early to late October… I imagine a 30.06 works pretty good too,

We were sighting in, and doing some target shooting in Utah prior to deer/elk season. We were next to a river, hmm think there are any trout in there? My friend had an auto loading 30.06, let’s find out. Ran six shots into a deep hole in the river, not a single fish came up.

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Great, so what is going to be used to stabilize the rubber in tires now?? And what will the long term side effects end up having that we will not know about for years to come??
So it is possible that our safety will be compromised, and tires will no longer stand the test of time…

“6PPD is an antioxidant and antiozonant that helps prevent the degradation and cracking of rubber compounds caused by exposure to oxygen, ozone and temperature fluctuation. 6PPD is used industry wide to help tires resist degradation and cracking, which is vital for driver and passenger safety. Antioxidants support increased tire endurance. There are no known alternatives to 6PPD that provide the same safety and performance characteristics in a tire.”

I have no doubt that the army of rubber chemists will find an alternative. They’ve done so in the past and they will do so in the future. These folks are clever people!

If I was a tire company executive, I’d ask those chemists to get started and I would also ask the USTMA to work with the government regulators to be sure the science is there to confirm those findings.

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I read a story in the same subject in this morning’s newspaper. I think they have a valid point. If their assertion stands up to investigation, then tire companies should find another chemical that serves the same function as this poisonous one. MTBE was removed from gasoline in a similar environmental pollution situation.

If they fish walleye for food, then it’s difficult to fault them IMO. There is a similar situation in the Chesapeake Bay. The numbers of oysters, blue crabs, and now rockfish are waning. The fishermen mostly sell their catch, but stopping them from harvesting the catch basically does take food off the table. The fishermen have agreed to limit their catch in coordination with the state to keep the population high enough that they can continue to fish. The fishermen have also started catching other varieties, like the invasive blue catfish. Restaurants are also creating recipes for the blue catfish in an effort to create a commercial market for them.

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