Yes, the same overload happens here and it gets really bad on Friday evenings when they’re trying to drum up weekend business or during a holiday.
Sometimes it’s 3 or 4 car dealer commercials right in a row and all using the same template:
Good, bad, no credit, come on down, all applications accepted…
10k dollars off MSRP on any new…
We’re practically giving them away…
Along with…
The big city dealers have the volume so they won’t be undersold…
The small city dealers have low overhead so they won’t be undersold…
Jesus Christ; they all pay the same for the cars and FOB shipping is the same no matter what. Given the state of TV today and perpetual commercial time I find myself just turning the TV off and getting on the computer. At least I can learn something here.
My BIL works for a TV conglomerate and sells advertising. I’ll have to ask him about that and I’d bet he’d say the ones that buy a lot of ads are given a lot of leeway.
Well any sane person would understand there is enough truth in some of that advertising to muck up the details,sure they will pay the old ride off,but you are still paying for it(only you dont have it no more) and so on" ad" nauseum.There should be a board of ethics for these shysters.
I pulled my 02 Z28 M6 to 161 by the Nuvi Nav. System and the car is stock with a SLP LM2 Exhaust and if you pull that in 5th gear and then shift to 6th
it will fall back to about 138.
It must be out of its powerband by then,if its not speed restricted,I know they used to speed limit a lot of cars to 155 mph,a lot of things are cut back to 96 mph,my last two Nissan 4 cyl pickups would only do 96,the first D21,would bury the peg(105) and was still climbing) my Dodge will do 102(drag restricted,the v8 Dakotas are electronically governed to 106…
I dont understand why the steep overdrive would cut the topspeed so much on the Camaro,the engine must not be producing as much horsepower at the rpm vs speed in the gear selected,after all the car has enough power to overcome the aerodynamic drag at that speed,6th gear must be close to useless on this car.
I don’t remember the numbers but my Aurora has the autobahn option. This means the computer will not shut the engine down at something like 105 but allows it to hit something like 130 with the Northstar V8. Actually I wouldn’t run it faster than 60 right now. It seems to be a desired option for the kids collecting Auroras.
Just because 6th gear is too tall to get you the highest top speed, it is far from useless. it does great things for fuel economy and quietness in the cabin.
Indycars frequently run two or three top gear ratios very close to eachother on the faster ovals. If its, say, a six speed gear box, 6th gear would the tallest ratio but wouldn’t be as fast as fifth gear. They would cruise in sixth for some of the race saving a bit of fuel, but shift down to fifth when they needed max horsepower.
Oldtimer 11,how would you use 6th gear around town?or on a regular twisty road,looks to me like the engine would always be lugging,I read the forum on the camaro owners,seemed seemed like the auto did as well or better then the 6 spds and people were all over the board with top speed numbers,I think its a computer thing maybe in those cars,but I must admit .50-1.00 is a very steep ratio,(I dont think the engine would idle that slow at 35 mph) as lazy as some people are about shifting,some of these cars would get lugged to death,but maybe these cars carry a very low final drive ratio.I’ve watched some clowns around town with manuals and you know the local garages have to love them.(I like the "hillholder " clutch people,who sit there on an incline holding the car still by slipping the clutch) Ah well each to His own,still looks to me like the Camaro would eventually top out in 6th,after these things are pretty powerful.
I was watching some youtube video and as it is had to watch through the one ad; it was a Chevy Silverado ad where it was showing the same guy next to a truck and then next to a car and was asking which one looks more masculine or desirable.
I was thinking this is why I see so many young folks (esp in my local gym), with massive trucks where the truck bed is in perfect condition, probably never used for anything other than the gym bag.
@Barkydog;
There is the irony at the gym parking lot about parking closer to the entrance. I have looked and maybe I am biased but notice mostly thin barbie style women with hummer size cars trying to squeeze in the first aisle. I always remind myself that I don’t know them and should not judge, but still find myself doing so!
The young guys try and make the most amount of noise out of their tires and engines for a simple pull out of the spot and leave the lot.
I sometimes think I pay too much attention to all this stuff around me!
Yeah, and why do the grilles on all the trucks have to be big snarling chrome monstrousities these days? I just need a basic work truck to pull a boat with and maybe get a slide in truck camper. I have no need to make a statement about my manhood.
Galant, your points provide more evidence (admittedly anecdotal) toward my long held theory that the reason so many people buy these huge pickups needlessly is the “mine’s bigger than yours” impulse.
I spend many of my days sitting with a fellow retiree watching birds that flock to the feed I place at the end of my driveway. We have a neighbor with a huge 4x4 crew cab diesel V8 pickup that comes and goes at least four of five times a day as it does local chores, never anything in it and never towing anything. Occasionally there will be someone in the passenger seat; I think there was probably three times this summer, but it generally has only the driver. It’s enormous. And noisy. And absolute overkill for the multiple daily local trips it makes. There’s only one possible reason they have it; the “mine’s bigger than yours” motive. I support my neighbor’s right to drive whatever he wants, but this is the epitome of waste, just to have the biggest baddest truck in town.
Galant, your points provide more evidence (admittedly anecdotal) toward my long held theory that the reason so many people buy these huge pickups needlessly is the "mine's bigger than yours" impulse.
I know 6-7 people who own these mega trucks…and every one is no taller then 5’6 and weigh no more then 150lbs.
It must be. I see it all the time.
Today I saw a young woman with no placard and looking buff in an exercise outfit pull into one at the post office because she was just running in to get some stamps.
One thing that I thought about reading the posts about “mine is bigger than yours” in buying big pickups to just run to the store to get a 6 pack, I can’t believe how many property owners in my area buy big riding zero radius turn mowers to mow a city lot that could be nowed in half an hour with a 20" push rotary mower.
When I was in 4th grade, three of us had a “mowing company”. We all had yards that were at least half an acre, and none of our families owned a power mower. We had a reel type human powered lawnmower. We tried a rope to the front of the mower and two kids pushed while one pulled. We thought it was great when each of our families bought a power mower and we could dissolve our company… Now people use big riding mowers for yards,that we three kids mowed with a non-powered reel mower.