My license plates over the years

If not mistaken, Cali emissions is state wide, so every county in the state has the emissions testing…
TN has 95 county’s, but only Davidson (Nashville) and the 6 county’s that border it ONLY had to go through Marta, the other 88 county’s did NOT have ant Marta (emissions testing), the problem was a very large amount of people that drove to Nashville for work, lived outside of those county’s, so a large % of vehicles were not tested for emissions ever in the state… So Marta was basically a tax on the poor, that is why it was stopped…

Now, you could have a cracked windshield, using your e-brakes to stop the vehicle, steal cords on all tires showing, loose ball joints and whatever about to fall off, but if that vehicle passed the NO CEL being on, then you got tags and were driving on the road, very unsafe, but legal… It was stupid and a waste of time…

I’m pretty sure the Calif emissions testing requirements varies county by county. If you recall a poster here needed to get his truck to pass. He lived in an area where he had to pass tailpipe HC, but they didn’t test evap emissions at all. In my more populated area they test both. There’s no routine safety testing here or anywhere else in Calif as far as I know. You make a good point that a policy focusing entirely on emissions and yet not a worry in the world about safety testing is worrying.

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As far as safety, all a Shop can do if they see something unsafe is, by law, is pay (shop pays) to have the vehicle towed to the customers home, but as soon as it is free from the tow truck, the customer can drive it right back on the roads… It is crazy what I have seen a customer drive out of a shop and right back on to the public roads…

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For most car owners, their schedules are fully booked. So they just drive the car until a symptom develops, then take it to the shop. If asked whether Calif politicos should enact a vehicle safety test requirement, probably 90% would say “no”. Why? B/c owners would be concerned the testing shop would have a big conflict of interest. A testing shop that was part of the state government wouldn’t be looked upon too kindly either I’d guess, the worry for it being how to deal w/incompetence and possible political patronage.

Plate readers are one thing but the little tags just have bar codes on them register to your car. Maybe the police have bar code readers with them, I don’t know but that’s what they would need.

Police can verify if vehicle registration is current via computer from the license plate number, they don’t need to see the annual sticker.

wi they sent me new plates automatically. Not sure what the time limit is but no charge. At least 20 years old.A little hassle, had to notify toll authority and insurance.

16 states use the California Zero Emission Vehicle standards, 17 use the Low Emissions Vehicle Standards, and 13 use the Advanced Clean Truck standards.

https://afdc.energy.gov/laws/california-standards#/tab-zev

Not always, and when buying aftermarket emission related parts/catalytic converters they used to specify 49 state legal, not legal for use in Cali… I guess I was being out of date, but my point was Cali started all this…

Now I understand that other states started Adopting this in 2004 & later (2018 the latest), and the Model Year Effective was as early as 2008, and the last states that adopted it was in 2010 & 2018 and being effective in 2014 & 2022…

And I did say “Cali is different then most states”, Yes things change… lol

Yes, what you were told was correct that these systems have that capability more capability than just reading license plates.

There appears to be various levels of License plate readers and at least one type can track the location and travel of vehicles by license plate number as well as by the make, model and color of a vehicle. The cameras can even catalog and track damage, like a broken tail light, or modifications, like custom hubcaps. This system was installed on traffic light poles and similar locations. And are extremely expensive over $500k

In fact, Norfolk, Virginia, (a city just south of me…) installed 172 license plate reading cameras throughout the city.

There are also less supplicated readers that photograph each and every vehicle (and driver) and records its time and location and can also notify the police of a “hit” on a stolen or suspect vehicle.

And there are low end systems that only read the license plates and if a “hit” on a stolen or suspect vehicle is noted it fires off an alarm…

Technology is moving too fast and too far…

Then why do they place this ugly white sticker on my windshield which I hate so much ?

I like my windshield clean. Plus, i have to use this other sticker called state inspection.

The police can tell whether or not the license plate number is currently registered, but that doesn’t mean the plate is attached to the correct car; i.e. the vin’s might not match. Maybe that sticker has something to do w/that.

You definitely wouldn’t like the warning sticker the police place on cars that are parked more than the two day parking limit here. They use a type of glue that takes a great deal of effort to remove, unless you know the secret … lol …

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You folks have more rules and restrictions than I’ve ever heard of. Huge fine for trimming your tree, can’t park more than two days, can wash your car, can’t can’t can’t. Wouldn’t it be easier if the just published a small book of what is allowed by the gestapo?

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Very true, trim a tree, go to jail … and you have a typo above, despite record rainfall last winter, we are still not allowed to wash our cars at home. It’s becoming very hard to stay out of trouble here. … lol …

There’s a nearby public park that I call the “NO” park. B/c of the long list of things not permitted. NO loitering, NO over-night parking, NO remote control toys, No golf practice, No pets, & of course NO car washing, … lol …

But on the upside, sleeping on the sidewalk is ok …

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As well as human feces on the streets of SF… priority’s are a little screwed up their with the rules…

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We certainly could use some improvement in common sense. For example, I see no need for huge fine if a property owner trims a small, unwanted overhanging branch from a city-owned tree. Cut the tree down, ok, a fine is ok for that. But a huge fine for little pruning?

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In Minneapolis they allow parking for 3 days, that is a huge difference.

Our fair city says one day, but not enforced. I did notify an officer of a vehicle that had been on the street for months, never moved, grass growing up underneath from cracks in the street. A few days later gone. Tried to look up owner by plates to make an offer, no go. stolen and abandoned my thought.

I’m not in Minneapolis. Those people are nuts.

You have to be law enforcement to get that info in minnesota. It used to be looser where security could access the records but they cracked down when a couple used it to try and hook up with a cute girl. Now the penalty is very severe. Even back then the police wanted to know how I got the name of the guy that hit my car but I don’t have to answer their questions. :rofl:

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