I have a 2003 Odyssey, 147k, great car - but gears finally having trouble. My local repair shop said they called Honda and Honda claimed it was “out of warranty.” But I found this below. Is it out of warranty? Thanks for any advice. Hoping to keep the Odyssey for many years.
Kelley Blue Book:
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID:
04V176
… On vehicles with more than 15,000 miles, the dealer will inspect the transmission to identify gears that have already experienced discoloration due to overheating. If discoloration exists, the transmission will be replaced. If discoloration is not present, the dealer will install the change to the oil cooler return line. The manufacturer has reported that owner notification began on May 12, 2004. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009
Summary:
On some minivans… certain operating conditions can result in heat build-up between the countershaft and secondary shaft second gears in the automatic transmission, eventually leading to gear tooth chipping or gear breakage. Gear failure could result in transmission lockup, increasing the risk of a crash.
Honda is probably not lying here. The part of the statement you quote does not include limitations such as time, mileage, maintenance, etc., but those limitations are elsewhere in Honda’s description of their campaign.
That campaign does not cover all 2003 Hondas, your VIN may not even be included and your car may never have been affected. Or…
Your car may have been inspected and repaired already according to the procedure described. Are you the original owner?
Moreover, your car is now 22 years old. Why would any part of the car be covered under warranty at this time?
If you hope to keep the car for many more years have the transmission repaired or replaced. That is certainly far more affordable than replacing the car.
The recall notice was made in 2004. Honda estimated that 0.3% for all models that might be affected could have the second gear problem. The Odyssey may have been evaluated for this issue in the last 20 years. Have you owned it since new? You can check with the dealer and see if this recall inspection was made already. If so, you’re out of luck. You probably are anyway. IMO this minivan aged out of this recall a long time ago. Remember that it is only for heat damage to second gear. If your problem shifting involves any other gear it almost certainly isn’t covered.
In addition to the valid replies thus far, I will add that a service campaign is not the same as a recall. A phone call to the corporate folks should clarify the matter for the OP.
But, I also have to wonder if he/she really thinks that the mfr should still be responsible for free repairs–of any kind–on a 21 year old vehicle.
Honda Odysseys of this vintage were known for having transmission problems. We had a 2003 Odyssey that was a great vehicle, but when it started having transmission slippage, we got rid of it. This was in 2015.
I think you’re out of luck here, friend. Either go visit a transmission shop, or start shopping for a new one.
+1
I have known several people who never serviced their transmission, and they all wound-up with serious trans problems. Most only made it to 90-100k, and one only made it to 150k.
That is a different problem. The recall involved installing an oil jet to prevent the countershaft and secondary shaft second gear from overheating and transmission lock-up.
The recall for your vehicle was probably performed 20 years ago. You can check for open recalls on the Honda web site:
And bear in mind that even if you have the trans replaced, every other part of this van is 20 years old and subject to failure at any moment, and its on your dime.