If you're buying a used car

… even if it’s not an antique, this chart will help you to interpret the present owner’s statements, or his ad:

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I think we here could add a few…

It ran when we parked it…Won’t run without a complete rebuild

Just needs a starter…Doesn’t start, no clue what’s wrong

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Needs freon…Needs complete AC rebuild

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If I’m buying a used car, I worry a lot less about the mechanical condition of the vehicle itself than I do about the risk of hidden liens on the title. Mechanical problems are almost always fixable. Title problems, not so much.

And I have found, on numerous occasions, that a prospective vehicle purchase had hidden lien(s) on the title, for things like online title loans, child support arrearages, parking violations, criminal fines/restitution, etc. And each time, when I brought this to the seller’s attention, they acted like they had no idea what I was talking about, because they had a paper title with no liens on it.

Here in Arizona, liens can be added to a vehicle title electronically, which obviously won’t show up on the seller’s paper copy. Hence, why the state offers a lien search website, which anyone thinking of buying a (private party) use vehicle should visit BEFORE handing over the money!

This does not apply to certified used cars sold at dealerships, right ? I buy mainly from dealerships.

Reading your stuff has enlightened me on the subject. Thanks for sharing.

“Just needs the oxygen sensor, and it’s in the trunk” - This thing will never pass emissions

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Certified by who? and exactly what is Certified?

Its it “Certified to be a Car” or is it “Certified to be a Car” that will run for XXX miles without repairs"?

Certification is worthless unless there’s someone willing and able to stand behind it with a warranty

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This complicated life we all have to deal with makes knowing things for sure difficult , but I think if you buy a used car from a new car dealer, you’d be pretty safe to assume the title is ok. I’d be more concerned about verifying the title if buying from a private sale, auction, or from a used car lot. If you need a loan to buy the car the lending company is on your side as well.

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Buying a factory certified car from a dealership should be safe, they buy leased cars from the finance arm or bank and want a clean title. Well established used car lots can be a good place. we have a few that have been around for years and would encourage buyers to do a mechanic’s inspection and take a long enough test drive to be sure they’re buying the right vehicle.

Co-worker went back to the place he bought his Crown Victoria from for a newer car for his better half. Just didn’t have anything new enough for the credit union to loan on. Owner of the dealership used to run the Cadillac/Pontiac dealer when it was downtown and switched to his own lot in the mid 80’s.

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Car dealers are licensed and regulated by your states Department of Motor Vehicles. If there is an issue with a vehicle’s title, the DMV enforcement division will make sure the dealer handles the problem.

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Sometimes. Our friends bought a RAV4 from the local CarMax, got temporary plates, and drove it home. Unfortunately, the state would not approve the permanent registration. The car was parked for a couple months while the issue was sorted out. It turned out that the car was stolen in Connecticut. Once the issue was settled, CarMax traded the stolen car for a one year newer one with less mileage at no cost to our friends. IMO CarMax handled a bad situation properly but it never should have come to that. They obviously did not check the title well enormously, if at all.

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They might have added that to their check moving forward, That might be one of the checks that they told me about… :man_shrugging:
Just glad they took care of your friends…

From a random vehicle…

Highly doubtful a legitimate, ie not a buy here pay here, dealership will sell a car with a pending lien. If being financed, the financing institution will do a lien search.
It’s possible, just unlikely.
I just read the post about Carmax, so yes I guess it happens!