Well David Koresh was the blue collar member of the clergy
Just saying lots of people are prosperous because they work hard and save and invest. And of course the reverse. You have to look at who he was addressing and what the context was. He talked a lot about foolish people sowing their seeds on rock or the fig tree bearing bad fruit, or not throwing pearls to swine, etc. āGo and multiply and be prosperousā. āAsk and you shall be givenā. Just being prosperous does not mean one is greedy. In fact the foolish person may ācovet his neighborās houseā, car, wife, lawn mower, not knowing what it took to get it. So who is really the greedy one? Just not so simple to think that greed yields success.
Oh and donāt forget the story about the servants that were each given one talent and they all just hid it so they wouldnāt lose it (like putting it in the bank or under the mattress) but the one invested it and multiplied it ten fold. Yep.
It just seemed this site that sniping seemed to be on the rise.
Letās not get into the virtues of the hardworking. Itās dangerously politics-adjacent āround these partsā¦and pretty soon none of us will be smiling like the pastor.
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Most convoluted response from @cdaquila I have ever seen, just trying to say if we are all playing in the same sandboxā¦
Itās not really convoluted in light of the exchange about who prospers for working hard. Iām actually with you on this, in the same sandbox.
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Maybe he drives an AMC Sprit? Not that that would help, I imagine the thought of the cleanup cost was a consideration.
ā¦and thatās what I meant when I said we all know your position. I had no idea, though, that you believe in the prosperity gospel, and Iām appalled at how often your conflate poverty with laziness to make your argument seem moral.
Hint: If you have to change the subject, youāve lost the argument.
Coveting and materialism are also things JC railed against, especially that time he beat up the money changers.
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OK I guess Iām just not seeing the importance of what kind of car he drives. Iāll have to tell you though when this first came up during the storms, I had to google him to see who he was. So Iām not really fixated on these folks.
Iām sure Warren Buffet has more money and he drives a several year old Buick. Some people like flashy cars and others are just conservative. When I was a kid our pastor always had a new Chrysler. Not a Plymouth or Imperial, but in between. So did our high school principal. At the restaurant where I worked, the boss drove a Ford station wagon, but his wife always had a new Imperial. I fail to see any connection at all, and think it is just an attempt to dis someone they donāt like.
Back in my days of working at a gas station, I didnāt frequently receive tips, but when I did, they almost always came from people who were driving Ford Country Squire station wagons. Those folks were consistently decent people, and some of them gave tips, to boot.
Well let me push the political innuendo out in the open with the question of where will toll roads be in the proposed private/public partnership in building needed infrastructure?
Was ācountry squireā a trim level, or was it the car itself?
In 2014, Buffett bought a Cadillac XTS to replace his 2006 Cadillac DTS. Before that, he drove a 2001 Lincoln Continental.
I believe your point is that Buffett doesnāt spend a great deal on his cars, and that list above goes along with what I think you are saying.
A long time self made multi-millionaire here in this small town had a well worn Chevrolet pickup and whatever car had been his wifeās when she last updated was his. For several years I passed his home on the way to work and at that time his wifeās early 80s Lincoln Town Car was his daily driver and if he needed to carry some feed or hay out to his horses the back of that Lincoln was plenty big enough to do the job.
IIRC, the ones with the fake wood side trim were referred to as āCountry Squiresā, but I could be mistaken and it is possible that all of their wagons had that model name.
Nope, youāre right - although the '50 and '51 models had real wood instead of the fake stuff. The Mercury side also had the same car (slightly different sheet metal) including the fake wood trim, which was called the Colony Park.
The non-wood-trim version was the Crown Victoria wagon.
In the early 1960ās through the mid-1970ās the Ford Country Squire was based on the LTD and had fake wood trim. It was more nicely appointed. The Country Sedan was based on the Galaxie 500 and had no wood trim but still was nicely appointed. The Ranch Wagon was based on the Custom and was very basic. It had a spartan interior and hardly any chrome trim. The Galaxie 500 line was dropped around 1975.
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I have yet to see any of these Evangelists āChristiansā whoās god is NOT MONEY. Thatās all they care about.
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I happened across an Osteen show on TV a few years ago by chance. I found him very positive, engaging, and uplifting, unlike many of the comments here. (Ironic, considering the topic of this thread.) And remember, Iām an atheist.
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I think thereās some Edsel affiliation if you go far enough back, too.