Formula One and Nascar

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Just watched the unveiling of the Freedom 250 IndyCar live… :man_shrugging:

That is about as far as I get unless it is drag racing…

My favs are the 1/8 mile no prep big tire ProMods, and the new(er) “small tire” true 10.5 class ProMods that are production cars with factory steel quarters and roof (fenders, doors, hoods and deck lids can be fiberglass or carbon fiber)(no promod body’s) and running a 28x10.5" (non-w) slick or a 12.5" maximum sidewall width for DOT tires… Tube chassis is legal and all cars have to meet NHRA rules for the speed they go…
The 10.5 class has gotten so fast that the top cars tires are simply only lasting 1 or 2 runs before the tires start coming apart, they now have cars putting down 4,000+ HP on a 28x10.5 tire while running as low as 3.9’s seconds at 200mph in the 1/8 mile… Either the tire manufactures are going to have to design a better tire for the class, or slow the cars down, the big tire class have enough sidewall and tire under them to NOT been having any issues… 3.915 second pass is the record so far, most are running low 4 second passes…
Unlike other forums of racing, multiple tire manufactures are allowed…

You can jump ahead to the 28:00 minute mark to see a 3.968 second at 200.29 mph winning run…

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That is INSANE on 10.5 inch tires!

They’ve got to be increasing the boost with each gear change to maximize the torque to the tires for the entire 1/8th mile!

4000 hp would turn to smoke in 1st gear… so 1500 for the launch maybe? Then 2700 hp in 2nd? and 4000 in 3rd?

No wonder the tires are coming apart. In the “old” days the big power was applied at the launch with decreasing torque applied in each successive gear.

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Some of the nitrous big cube (959ci with 1800 NA HP+) cars are running 5 or 6 NOS kits/systems and on the hit they are using a couple of fogger systems, then for every 1/2 to 1 second turning on the next kit, but yeah, it is coming down to the tune put in the car for that run, they pull timing off the line, then add timing back at set times or on a curve…
The chassis are set up to put the power to the ground, the trick is of course to put as much power as the track will hold without blowing the tires off it, then keep adding boost and or NOS to the engine hoping it will hold…
They do monitor the driveshaft speed to check the amount of tire slippage off the line and through out the run, so basically the tires are spinning most if not all of the run, they slip/spin the tires like top fuel slips the clutch… I have read that on the very low 10.5 tire 4 sec to the 3.9 sec runs that on the 2nd or 3rd pass the tread at speed starts peeling off or something like that…

Remember that some of these same small tire cars are running no prep events/tracks, meaning they scrape all the rubber off the track and do not prep it before or during the race, and water burn outs only… That slows them down to the mid to high 4 sec range… On the street, the big tire cars can put down mid 4 sec runs and the small tires can put down 5 sec runs, maybe even high 4’s…

It is crazy that a car that can be driven on the street can lay down 3 sec runs in the 1/8 on any tire… the big tire cars that have run the full 1/4 mile have run low 5 sec passes at 250+mph, the Top NHRA ProMods are putting down 5.10-5.30 times at 270+mph, but they are running ProMod body’s…

Some of the cars can carry the front tires 500-550 feet, others pick the fronts up about the 330 mark through the 660…

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I no longer go to or follow drag racing. But as far as I have seen “no prep” is “highly prepped”.

Reminds me of, I think C&D, did a comparison “shootout” between 1966 Muscle cars. Buick chose to not participate because other brands would have their cars prepped by experts. The other brands did that, C&D told who did what. Example, the Ford entries were prepped by Holman and Moody. To include Buick C&D go a showroom stock GS400. That Buick with no alterations finished near the top of the pack.

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A little education to the meaning of no prep racing…

No prep is a street racing thing and something fairly new to the drag strip but is catching on fast, no prep has zero to do with prepping the vehicle for racing and everything to do with the prep work to the track, meaning making the track as close to a real street as possible, there are still tons of closed off street racing done at speeds hitting 150-180+mph in 660’, but now that some of those vehicles are hitting over 180mph on the street most of them have moved over to the track on no prep nights… No Prep takes a lot more skill and tuning to set up to make it down a slick track/street surface… No prep vs prep tracked vehicles have different set ups to put the power to the ground and generally don’t work well taking a “track car” and putting it on the street…

No prep drag racing means competing on a track surface that has not been treated with traction-enhancing chemicals (like “PJ1 Track Bite” or “P.i.m.p Juice”) or cleaned of rubber/debris, mimicking the conditions of a street. It focuses on driver skill, power management, and car setup rather than maximum traction.

Some no prep street racing race masters allow P i m p Juice (mixed with water, an art in itself) during burnouts, while others only allow water burnouts, rules must be discussed and agreed on before the racing starts…

Also a lot of/most no prep track racing does not show ET or trap speed on the boards so you are guesstimating what other are running, but the track still gives the driver their personal time slip… On the street they use Dragy to know what their personal times are…

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Ah, we were doing ‘no prep’ in the 60s. Twin Cities Speedway (?) was not NHRA sanctioned. The line by the Christmas tree was like ice. I did not know what I was doing, just floored it on green, car was smoking the tires so much it shifted to second by the time I passed the tree!

I have been to a lot if races in the lastg 50 years. Holland sppedway.Lancaster Speedway and Little Valley Fairgrounds/ Little Valley is dirt, lancaster and Hollans started out as dirt but both got paved long ago. Near by,Ransomville is dirt and Hosts a World of Outlaws race every year. Craftsman Trucks are Fox Sports 1 which I get on the Spectrum cable my building supplies along with my spectrum internet and a year of free spectrum cell phone service. I only pa $5 a month for dvr service, I can get a Xumo free but the cloud dvr is $10 a month. My cell service goes to $30 at the end of the year.

If any of you have not gone to a dirt oval track race… I suggest you go to your nearest track. I had watched dirt oval racing a bit on TV. I was blown away the first time I went to Eldora Speedway in Ohio. It is an entirely different experience than seeing it on TV or spectating at asphalt oval racing.

Wear a hat with a brim and maybe safety glasses depending on how close you sit and if you wear glasses. Some dirt does fly.

We have a dirt track. One year they had lawn mower races on it. I gotta say it was one boring spectacle. I think my unmodified rig in top gear would have competed very well and I could have cut the grass afterwards.