F-1 now requires Apple TV to atch in the US. Not worth it to me to see them play follow the leader.I was getting interested in the Craftsman Truck series no builtb w that Ram is in but I lost interest when I found iut that all the truxks have to use the same Ilmore built Chevy V8s. Nascar just doesn’t get it. People started watching it to root for the same make of cars they drove. We rooted for the drivers sure, but we rooted for the ones that drove the same make of car. Nascar has become boring, the same 35 “Legacy teams always have the first 35 sopts and the cars always get their laps back so the sponser’s can always see their cars on the lead lap. No real competition between makes.
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It’s all fixed. That’s why I rarely watch any more.
And I’ll watch sports even less if they migrate away from broadcast and cable toward online subscription model.
NASCAR puts me to sleep… unless it is the road course races.
F1 is interesting. It is the highest tech open wheel racing series in the world. Last year was the most competitive in years. This year, with new specs for the cars is shaping up to be similar.
I love Indycar - went to see the St. Pete race live.
As far as streaming and broadcast… F1 has always required cable to watch on Speedvision (remember that?) then ESPN or ESPN2. There was an F1 TV app (on ROKU and internet streaming) that was quite good. This year it was picked up by AppleTv in the US. $99 a year for AppleTV gives F1 and the full lineup of shows. Cheaper than the $129 I paid for the F1 app.
NASCAR and IndyCar are still on broadcast TV, CBS for early NASCAR races. FOX picks up the last half of the season and broadcasts IndyCar. Cable and streaming providers offer cable channels FS1, FS2 and FS2, TNT, CW, which show various practice and races. The lower level class - O’Reilly Series - are on the CW.
Things have changed. Things will continue to migrate to streaming. Broadcast TV is all but dead. Get used to it.
Hasn’t NASCAR been using spec engines and chassis for decades?
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NASCAR spec engines, No. Spec chassis, yes.
The trucks use a Chevy engine built by Ilmor to keep racing close and less expensive.
NASCAR Cup and O’Reilly series cars use pushrod Ford, Chevy and Toyota 5.8 liter V8s. The Cup cars use fuel injection and make about 900 hp.
O’Reilly cars use the Holley 390 cfm carburetor so they make about 700 hp.
As already posted, the trucks use an Ilmor built pushrod V8 engine based on the GM LS series engine with a carburetor.
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To put it a different way, no ‘stock car’ based bodies/engines have been used since at least the ‘90s, right?
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More like the 1970s…
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Has to “resemble “the street car in shape. In reality as long as it matches the official template it’s legal.
Not any more. They all meet the same template with decals to mimic the car.
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F1 has become a little too “political” for my tastes
Lots of proxy wars being fought out there
Plus I despise how Andretti was dragged through the mud when he was trying to introduce a new team
F1 complains they want more American viewers and fans
And then they punk the Andretti family
That’s a real American with genuine name recognition and decades in motor sports, yet they basically told him to go pound sand
No thank you
I’m not going to support that behavior
F1 didn’t win ME over as a potential fan
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I’ve never much enjoyed those races, except the old dirt track races with the guys that drove moon shine. My dad and I went to see a thrill on wheels show a couple times that was fun. New 61 fords flying over ramps, on two wheels, etc. they looked stock but I suppose they had some modifications. I also enjoy the demo derby if it’s not too hot out.
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Dinosaurs like me die and people who don’t remember the past I lived in come along and that;s ok.
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Lots to comment here:
I was peeved (I would use a much stronger word here, but it will be censored!) when I found out this week that to watch F1 I needed an Apple TV subscription. I don’t need another subscription just to get that one show I am interested in. It gets quite expensive for a single show. I’ve decided to use YouTube and only get the highlights until someone has the idea of doing their own commentary to avoid copyright laws - and even then, you know Apple will threaten to sue and make it just too costly to even attempt!
NASCAR? I get that cheating is such a pervasive thing that they decided to have a spec series. I’m OK with that. IndyCar has done that and that seems to work.
And the politics in F1? Yeah, it was bad they screwed over Michael Andretti. This just points out that Americans aren’t the only ones who do “Not Invented Here!”.
It’s also bad that they have a problem with the disparity in spending. They need to solve that.
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There is still a dirt track in my area but runs World of Outlaws. Not like the dirt cars of the 60s.
Haven’t made it to a race yet.
The last thing I went to was a Tour of Destruction derby in 2017.
Everything seems to be going that way. There were many events in the winter Olympics that were only available on Peacock. Thursday night football is only available on Prime. I’m not happy with this trend.
We have Comcast and our subscription includes Peacock. Olympic events were also available on USA. The local channel that shows Ravens games on Sunday (CBS) carries TNF when the Ravens play.
There’s only one way to fight it: with our wallets.
You live in an unrealistic world.
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Now I am doubly peeved [insert stronger word]. Today’s F1 race had frequent lead changes. That would have been interesting to watch. I am now reconsidering the idea of boycotting. It’s going to cost me $150 a year and I just can’t get my brain around paying that much for just the one show - albeit it’s a whole series if you include all the practices and qualifying.
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Apple Tv can be had for $99 + tax if you sign up for a year instead of monthly.
And it was a great race to watch!
Lots of passing and strategy (that Ferrari got wrong)