Formula One and Nascar

F-1 now requires Apple TV to atch in the US. Not worth it to me to see them play follow the leader.I was getting interested in the Craftsman Truck series no builtb w that Ram is in but I lost interest when I found iut that all the truxks have to use the same Ilmore built Chevy V8s. Nascar just doesn’t get it. People started watching it to root for the same make of cars they drove. We rooted for the drivers sure, but we rooted for the ones that drove the same make of car. Nascar has become boring, the same 35 “Legacy teams always have the first 35 sopts and the cars always get their laps back so the sponser’s can always see their cars on the lead lap. No real competition between makes.

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It’s all fixed. That’s why I rarely watch any more.

And I’ll watch sports even less if they migrate away from broadcast and cable toward online subscription model.

NASCAR puts me to sleep… unless it is the road course races.

F1 is interesting. It is the highest tech open wheel racing series in the world. Last year was the most competitive in years. This year, with new specs for the cars is shaping up to be similar.

I love Indycar - went to see the St. Pete race live.

As far as streaming and broadcast… F1 has always required cable to watch on Speedvision (remember that?) then ESPN or ESPN2. There was an F1 TV app (on ROKU and internet streaming) that was quite good. This year it was picked up by AppleTv in the US. $99 a year for AppleTV gives F1 and the full lineup of shows. Cheaper than the $129 I paid for the F1 app.

NASCAR and IndyCar are still on broadcast TV, CBS for early NASCAR races. FOX picks up the last half of the season and broadcasts IndyCar. Cable and streaming providers offer cable channels FS1, FS2 and FS2, TNT, CW, which show various practice and races. The lower level class - O’Reilly Series - are on the CW.

Things have changed. Things will continue to migrate to streaming. Broadcast TV is all but dead. Get used to it.

Hasn’t NASCAR been using spec engines and chassis for decades?

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NASCAR spec engines, No. Spec chassis, yes.

The trucks use a Chevy engine built by Ilmor to keep racing close and less expensive.

NASCAR Cup and O’Reilly series cars use pushrod Ford, Chevy and Toyota 5.8 liter V8s. The Cup cars use fuel injection and make about 900 hp.

O’Reilly cars use the Holley 390 cfm carburetor so they make about 700 hp.

As already posted, the trucks use an Ilmor built pushrod V8 engine based on the GM LS series engine with a carburetor.

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To put it a different way, no ‘stock car’ based bodies/engines have been used since at least the ‘90s, right?

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More like the 1970s…

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Has to “resemble “the street car in shape. In reality as long as it matches the official template it’s legal.

Not any more. They all meet the same template with decals to mimic the car.

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F1 has become a little too “political” for my tastes

Lots of proxy wars being fought out there

Plus I despise how Andretti was dragged through the mud when he was trying to introduce a new team

F1 complains they want more American viewers and fans

And then they punk the Andretti family

That’s a real American with genuine name recognition and decades in motor sports, yet they basically told him to go pound sand

No thank you

I’m not going to support that behavior

F1 didn’t win ME over as a potential fan

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