Well it was about half in 2007, then creep creep creep, then boom boom for the last few years.
Bernanke, Yellen and Powell have thrown a lot of paper at Greespan’s debacle and for now the house of cards holds.
This however is uncharted territory where the emphasis is on increased productivity which yields increased wages and profits without inflationary pressures like in the past. That’s why it was so stupid to raise discount rates fearing inflation, when there was and is no inflation.
I’m going to risk a flag again but I was wondering if I was any smarter than the folks during the depression so I read the book “The Forgotten Man” covering economic decisions made by Hoover and FDR. I concluded that FDR lengthened the depression by at least 5 years by punishing business and not following the same formula as today.
Smarter men than me argue that situation from each side, Bing. And neither is always right or wrong. But I question basing economic health on an easily manipulated gaggle of equities. I made a few bucks on 2 stocks on dares and never lost anything but I did lose money on a sure bet once long ago and that mistake seems to haunt me.
Ok, there was ONE actual typo in the part u quoted. The rest is common stuff. Sorry u don’t know it, or are young enuf never to have needed to learn it for old 140char txts, to save $ per txt cost, and to type on a dialpad phone that had buttons. Imagine that, BUTTONS. Then a few had a QWERTY, then no good cell had any typable buttons at all. Ya ya, there’s a couple still, but lacking too much vs others to go for them.
Yes, I get a rootable phone, hopefully soon.
As to privacy regarding a Google kb keylogger, THAT is avoidable, and is worth it to anyone who grasps the risk. Its about the worst kind if virus, yet it’s masquerading as peachy keen, and ppl don’t care! Fyi, others’ disregard to privacy violates EVERYONE they communicate with.
As to law abiding, u don’t sound niave enuf to think any benefit, like in an accident, is worth ur rights.
Used to be ppl were willing to die to fight for things like we throw away like garbage today.
Being spied on at the level of a blackbox would DEFINITELY qualify.
Btw, there’s a good thread abt my ‘txt speak’ in…I think r/askmen.
It doesn’t call it that there, but I think it’s a good term. Evee heard of ‘elite speak’ or ‘leetspeak’ (phonetically)? Good for pw’s. Can’t find a dictionary tho, and its cryptic enuf to need it.
Mine are obvi, as is alot of oldschool BBS’speak. I use that too, but ppl are so young I suspecting its lost on many.
L8r.
Jeeez, so many literal-needing ppl. It only takes a lil brainpwr to read…or can u speedread? It WOULD mess that up, as the words aren’t the same # of chars, and don’t always start and end with the std letter. IIRC, that’s important.
BTW (by the way), IIRC means ‘if I recall correctly’.
And paranoid? ? This is REAL.
If I need to explain why it matters and why it will more and more and more as AI improves and all the data has beeing stored for yrs, then this really isn’t the sub. Try r/privacy.
You have hi jacked a thread for your own personal thoughts and can’t seem to understand that writing clear and concise sentences will make your thoughts a little more acceptable .
There is not a 140 character limit here so you will not be charged extra fees on top of your initial membership fee.
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Your best best is a used 2 -3 year old car . Even a 2019 is heavily depreciated - as an example - you can find a fusion 2019 with under 6,000 miles for 17,000. Tht like 10,000 off and it has a 3 year warrantee still. Take out a reasonable 5 year loan and your nut is $ 300 or so.
I hate to tell you this…but the short handed text has been around for over 70 years. It was used by teletype operators to communicate with each other. Network (not digital networks) were 1,000,000 (literally) slower back then so sending full text words was network costly and slow.
While I can easily read your text type…it’s annoying. Maybe if you were older you’d have learned to type.
Thanks so much for the apology! I was really feeling down (srcsm ntndd) because I don’t know the lingo (and don’t care to waste time reading it or learning it). That messed up cell-phone-speak marks the beginning of the end of our culture, if it ever becomes common place.
By the way I didn’t read much of what you wrote. If you can’t make the effort then I won’t bother, either.
P.S. (Post Script)
Oh, if I see the light and change my mind, does my learner permit include the necessary tin-foil headgear?
Hmmm… actually, I suppose knowing it would give me a big advantage when I fill out a job application. Any employer seeing it would hire me on the spot, I’m quite certain. 
Thanks, again! Bless your little heart!
Back to cars, I suppose as a general rule, if one ever has a choice between taking out a loan and not taking out a loan, one should choose the latter and start saving.
@bing, Hey Bing here I come!
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Just made me wonder is all what the phone speak looks like for kids in Germany or France or Italy? Do they use the same symbols like ur and $? Doesn’t really make sense in those languages and with the Euro. So then to master a foreign language and be able to communicate with kids under 18, you’d have to learn a whole 'nother short hand? I dunno. Just crossed my mind. The great divide I guess.
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You place a pretty high valuation on your generation. That’s typical. I think every generation thinks their’s was the best and the next is the decline of civilization as we know it. Pretty sure our parents felt the same way. They lamented what kids of the day were doing to erode civilization as they knew it. So people were looking down their nose at what you did when you were younger and now you’re doing it too. Yet, the world continues to turn, the sun comes up in the morning and life goes on…now get off my lawn!
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Regardless of the past depravity in the world, the earth continued to turn. Didn’t seem to matter what the youth were like. However the old argument that every generation thinks the next generation is the end, is without evidence and usually just an attempt to not discuss the issue.
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What kind of nonsense is that?
Maybe in your family they are unable to discuss such things but my grandfather and father were fairly open about the gradual decline they felt was occurring in future generations. As well as it appears to be a fairly widely held belief? Like hundreds of written articles about how kids today don’t have the values we had? Here’s one I found in a second- Millennials: The Me Me Me Generation | Time
What issue are we not discussing? The one where you can’t tolerate any mode of communication less the Queen’s English and look down your nose at anyone crass enough not to speak it? That issue?
a couple of things: go ahead and disagree, but please be kinder to each other. And secondly, let us please get back to discussing cars.
10Q 
@TwinTurbo. I agree with you. My son is a college professor and his scholarly work has gone beyond the work I did. My grand daughter, who is 17 1/2 has plays with a music group and the group did a European concert tour, a concert tour in China and then a concert tour in British Columbia. She is the musician I never was.
When I was teaching, here was the grading scale I told the students:. “I have lowered my standards. My scale used to be that you have to know more than I know to pass. Now, if you only know as much as I know, but not more, the highest grade you can get is a “C” . The As and Bs are reserved for those who knowledge of the material exceeds my knowledge. If your generation doesn’t know more than my generation, how will civilization progress?”
In my last semester of teaching, I had a student in the data structures class I taught that came up with a much better algorithm than I had presented or was in our textbook. I then told the class that I was retiring at the end of the semester and that this was the best retirement present I could receive.
In my 44 years of teaching, I have seen some really great students. I am not worried about the next generation.
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They still teach data structures? Most modern languages have those things built into the language…Link Lists, Queues, sorting…etc…etc. I can’t tell you how long ago I wrote a Sort routine…or a linked list. I guess as a way to teach programming logic, and how those things work.
Anyone else remember poke and peek? It is not just for checking rust on cars.
I’m looking at the situation from a language view point. Since the founding, our language has evolved very slowly with changes starting out as slang and following a progression into standard English. I have been kind of protective of the language and its words that reflect our roots and culture and the absolutely wonderful job it does expressing thoughts and concepts.
To lose the richness of our national language is to lose some of what makes Americans unique. Call me old fashioned, but I’d like to hang onto that.
I suppose that just as we are losing things like respect for our flag, respect for our military, respect for a traditional family unit, self-reliance, etcetera, etcetera, it doesn’t seem to be a big deal to some folks.
Then again, everything seems to change at a pace that goes faster and faster all the time. We went centuries with bows and arrows, horseback transportation, fire for heat, light. and cooking, with little change. Then came electricity, the telegraph, steam train, etcetera.
We went from hot air balloons, to powered wooden airplanes, to metal airplanes flying at the speed of sound, to orbiting the planet in quite a short time period.
In my lifetime we went from 1 corded black wall phone in our kitchen and 80 punch Hollerith computers (which I used to order Volkswagen parts) to having a phone/computer/camera in my pocket. I’m looking forward to electric vehicles.
I get that change is taking place at faster pace and that much of the change is for the better (I enjoy getting here, 1,200 air-miles, in 2-1/2 hours and like advances in health care and nutrition), but still believe that our language is a different commodity, it is us, our heritage, our roots, our culture, our unique means of expression. I want that preserved.
No, that’s not what I’m thinking or saying. I have 2 kids, 25 and 32 years in age. Those kids and their peers are way ahead of where I was at those ages, very successful, forward thinking, rational, extremely hard working, and intelligent. I have no fear these younger folks will harm our civilization, but rather they will improve it, more so than I did.They communicate very well, know how to spell, and know that their use of our language will reflect on them. Trust me, they want it preserved, too.
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Oh, yah! Do I remember it! Who could forget?
Can you say that here? 
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