Brake Light Comes on When Locking Car, But Not When Pressing Brake Pedal?

2004 Camry. When I press my brake pedal, The Left brake light turns on as well as the top only. The right brake light does not turn on. However, when I lock my car, the right brake light turns on (as well as the left and top). I’m trying to figure out what could be causing this.

I’m trying to first understand the electrical circuit. I don’t see how the brake light turns on when locking the car.

I believe what is being referred to as the “stop light switch” is the brake pedal switch that actuates when press the brake pedal. You have to be physically at the pedal to press it down, to close the switch, to complete the circuit to illuminate the Left, Right and Top brake lights.

Under the assumption that what I’m observing is correct (Left, Right and Top lights illuminate when locking the car), than wouldn’t that suggest that the green wire going to the Right Brake Light should be just fine? If I was having a wire issue, I would expect the Right Brake Light to never light up, ever.

I’m a big confused by this. Thanks for any help!

Might be slightly related, but whenever I press my brake pedal and have the radio going, I get lots of static, that goes away when releasing the brake pedal.

The taillights should flash when using the keyless entry remote, not the brake lights.

The problem with the right brake light is likely a poor connection in the bulb socket or a burned out bulb.

Edit: Hazard lights flash with RKE door locking, front and rear turn signal bulbs should flash.

This makes sense, and what I would expect to be normal.

When I do lock my car, all four of the red lights light up in the rear (not including the top one inside of the car.

But when I press the brake pedal only the rear left brake light lights up along with the top brake light within the car. The right rear brake light does not. What a pain in the rear. I had some body repair work done about a decade ago. Maybe some electrical repairs were done incorrectly, is all that I can think of.

I’m noticing some really odd behavior. You make me think of what is “supposed to” light up when locking the car. Looking at the schematic, I believe it’s these three wires only, if I’m understanding this correctly?

The ECU energizes the coil in the relay when when locking the car. This closes the relay and completes the circuit. Following the green wires down. The following is “supposed to” illuminate then extinguish when locking the car:

  • Rear Left Tail Light (Called Parking Light in the Schematic),
  • Rear Right Tail Light (Called Parking Light in the Schematic)
  • Front Left Parking Light
  • Front Right Parking Light.

I believe this is the front parking light.

Double checking myself here on the actual car, I was wrong in my initial assessment. The top light (inside the car) does not turn on. I get the following immediately after pressing the lock button on my remote:

  • Rear Left Parking Light Illuminated
  • Rear Left Brake Light Illuminated
  • Rear Left Turn Signal Illuminated
  • Front Left Parking Light Illuminated
  • Rear Right Parking Light Illuminated
  • Rear Right Brake Light Illuminated
  • Rear Right Turn Signal Illuminated
  • Front Right Parking Light Illuminated

Then a split second after those eight lights mentioned above illuminate then extinguish, I get the following:

  • Front Left Turn Signal Illuminated
  • Front Right Turn Signal Illuminated

The two lights above then extinguish.

I can press the Lock button on remote over and over again, and what is mentioned above repeats itself.

It seems like what I’m observing is nowhere near what I’m supposed to be and abnormal?

Using a test light or voltmeter, is there power on the green/white wire when the brake is applied?

Have you examined the bulb?

This should be right up my (Gasoline) Alley – I drive a 2004 Camry and I used to do this kind of stuff for a living. (Sneak Circuit Analysis; Fault Tree Analysis) But it’s 2 AM and I should be sleeping. Can you confirm my understanding so far?

When doing the RKE (which I never use), the Tail Lights should flash, but not the Stop (Brake) Lights (so says Nevada_545),

but your Stop Lights are coming on with RKE, too (in addition to Tail Lights),

and when you press the brake pedal, Right Stop Light is not coming on (but Left Stop Light and High Mounted Stop Light do come on).

I’ll try to look at this some more tomorrow.

The “static” in the radio MIGHT be caused by a failure of the resistor-capacitor circuit in the Stop Light Switch (why are they there???). If you have an old fashioned analog ohmmeter, you might be able to check that. (Detailed instructions available if requested.) I think that would not be not related to the no-brake-light problem.

(BTW, you say “Rear Left Tail Light (Called Parking Light in the Schematic)” (similarly for ‘left’). I don’t see that in the schematic; I see only “Tail Light”. But it’s 2:40 AM, and I should be sleeping.)

Hey thanks. I haven’t tested with a volt meter yet or examined the bulb.

What is RKE stand stand for?

I’m not sure why the resistor And capacitor is there. Thanks for pointing out that might be it, just check for continuity across it?

I see what you mean by “Tail Light” not sure why I thought it was something else

But thanks, yea if you could see what happens when you lock your car that would be great!

Remote Keyless Entry

Another one for don’t overthink it before 1st checking the basics, KISS it (keep it simple stupid), check your bulb and socket…
Swap bulbs to see if the issue moves with the bulb…

A basic test light or DVOM is your friend… :smiley:

Well, my '04 Camry has a different rear light setup.

As others have suggested, let’s try to keep it simple. Make sure you have the correct bulbs installed for Tail Light and Stop Light. We have seen weird problems when mistakenly using single-filament in place of dual-filament (and vice versa). And make sure the bulbs are working properly. I remember a weird problem (probably on this forum) where one filament of a dual-filament bulb was broken and shorting to the intact filament.

So what lights up on your car when you press the lock button on the remote?

I haven’t tested that yet. I have to dig the Remote out of a drawer and see if it still works (might have original battery). Also, I trust Nevada’s statement about what is supposed to happen, though seeing that we have two configurations for '04 Camry, I guess it’s worth seeing what mine does. Maybe later today.

The owner’s manual states the turn signal lights will flash.
Does your car have a factory keyless entry system?

according to what I’m seeing, @art1966 seems to have the correct tail lamp setup for a 2004 Camry

@pokemonyouandme123_193319 Did someone install the other tail lamps at some point? Perhaps they’re wired up a little differently

Yup. The (yellow) Turn lights flash, rear and front.

(I’m impressed that the 20+ year old battery in the Remote clicker still works.)

2005 Camry has the turn signal lights at the top position of the lamp.

The tail lamp in the OP post (#3) is for a 2005-2006 year model…

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EDIT: Mr Nevada was a few seconds faster… :smiley:

Not sure how that is possible for the front and rear turn signals flash when pressing lock, from the schematic. Seems like only the front should right? But good to know, I’m not the only one observing this behavior.

Do the rear brake lights and tail lights also illuminate when pressing lock? What about the top brake light?

From Nevada’s excerpt from the owners manual, turn signals should.

Sorry I may have gotten 2004 mixed with 2005, but the electrical circuit I suspect is likely the same. The bulbs might be in different positions in the rear, but the same bulbs should light up for both years I believe.

I will try looking at my right brake light later today. I believe it’s LED that I have in there.

Are you saying you have aftermarket LED bulb(s) in one or more locations? I’d switch everything back to stock bulbs and see if that helps.

That explains the radio static, especially if you installed LED in the center high mounted stop light. The center stop light is very close to the radio antenna.

I had a 2005 Camry for several years

I seem to remember none of the exterior lighting was LED