Well now you did it. Car designers have been in kind of a funk for a while. Now you’ve given them a whole new line of design license. Now we’ll see a bunch of banana shaped new cars coming out. Reality is though they’ll have to have big wheels, but they’ll figure that out. John Deere did. I refuse to buy a green and yellow banana shaped car though with tractor wheels on it. I think I’m going to see my banker about buying five or ten new cars and putting them in storage while I have the chance. 
@db4690 and … : LOL
I happened to see this video - also M1 20k mileage oil has fine print stating it assumes freeway miles - enoy:
@bing - you asked about having to test AMS oil.
It seems someone has done it for you!
He comments about wear having used it for Uber for 20k miles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdSyZ-D3gnw
Another at 175k:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvq7-Z7l7Fc&pp=QAA%3D
Not so. As someone said, if the earth were really flat, cats would have knocked everything off of it by now.
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I guess I just wasn’t clear. I’m not interested, period. I’m not interested in what any Amsoil dealer says or in their tests or not in the Amsoil analysis reports. I am not interested period.
A few take-aways though from all that carp. First, that oil looks terrible. Filthy and thick like gear oil. Even my lawn mower doesn’t look that bad when I change it. I would never have that in my car. Second, they change the filter and adds fresh oil then comments how the new filter is cleaning up that oil gear lube that is still in there. Third I wonder if their profit center is selling oil analysis? That doesn’t look like an independent lab and at $28 a pop. Fourth, the guy says he gives a 25% discount to his repeat customers. What does that tell you about the mark up? Fifth, I really am not interested in hearing about this stuff and never was. Sorry to mislead you. I wouldn’t use it in my lawn mower now for sure.
And I guess sixth, that guy that has a fleet of 90 vehicles and uses it on all of his is an idiot.
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That’s funny. Now I know why you drank the koolaid if you think those videos are anything more then marketing hype. They offer ZERO EVIDENCE…NONE…Go back to high-school and take a science class.
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I am concerned about you - do you have health coverage? Pls go see your doctors for each faculty.
Last time you said “hype” trying to put a hole on their warranty!
@MikeInNH I don’t think you’re going to get anywhere on this one.
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But we’re so close to 200. 
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I try to read a lot about oil. I believe Royal Purple and Amsoil are group IV oil base which is 100% synthetic and Mobil 1 is group III I believe. Check it out. I was going to buy RP for my Rav 4 (63K miles) but a lot of articles said unless it’s a performance car, going with any name brand synthetic (mobil, pennzoil, castrol, etc…) is good enough if you change it at the required interval. I change mine between 2 and 3K to do something on the car. You can buy amsoil or RP but you’re spending money that you don’t need to (yeah, I change way too fast and waste money too). FWIW
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Yes - and I would use AMS if I am driving 10k or more in a year. So I can stick with once a year oil change. This is what Uber drivers doing as per the video I posted.
If you are using Full Syn, 2-3k is too soon. 5k seems what most people do.
5k oil change interval is what the manufacturers recommend with our without full synthetic.
- paying $10/6 month gives you free shipping (in addition to Preferred price) without having to spend $100
- one will still get free shipping if they spend $100 and do not have to pay the $10/6 month
I am looking to switch my car from M1 to at least AMS OE ($20) and change oil once a year or 5k - this car does less than 10k miles per year.
That is just plain nuts . You are beating your brains out when changing oil at 5000 miles or once a year with any brand name oil is just fine and you will not have to join anything or pay shipping .
Is every decision this difficult for you ?
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Thank you - I was intrigued by this comment but I certainly think that I can use this lesson in other areas of my life (with my posts, my thinking was that I am sharing my findings nothing but - but intrigued to see the impression I made). If you are open to a phone chat, I appreciate it - there is a direct messaging option to connect).
@sciconf. NO
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No problem. I will not share any new findings on this topic.
Auto manufacturers don’t make oil, their names are put on oil from refineries. They are exactly the same as other oils that meet the same specs, except they cost a lot more. Amsoil is in the same category. Amway doesn’t refine oil. Because it’s basically a pyramid scheme, Amsoil costs way more than other oils. A good rule of thumb is that anything hyped by infomercials is over-priced and probably ineffective. Buy any oil that meets the spec recommended by the automaker, shop by price. Don’t be a sucker.
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