Widening highways makes traffic worse

I’m sorry your mind is not open to it.

It’s a simple concept: everyone slows down, just a little, and things flow more smoothly

Show me one legitimate reference that backs up that claim. Dallas went with a 70 mph speed limit when it expanded its major N-S freeway to reduce congestion.

Did it work?

So that means I’d drive up to 67mph in that 70 zon, since 70mph is the LIMIT, or slower depending on conditions. Right hand lane unless passing or a Westchester exit (left hand side).

What really works is keeping five car lengths between you and the next car. Try it sometime. There is no unnecessary slowing down but smooth travel. A highway has only so much capacity like a water hose. Increase speed and more cars can be accommodated. Slow the speed down and you reduce capacity. Bumper to bumper reduces capacity to a crawl. Add snow and you sit there for hours.

SLOWING DOWN helps me accomplish at least that gap. But you don’t have to believe me. Few else on here do.

When each on ramp adds 20 vehicles per minute to a highway, where does the extra space come from to be able to maintain 5 car lengths? Increase the speed until the traffic is moving @ 140 mph?

No. Slowing down does.

Yep, here’s some nice slow traffic:

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If I do that the gap will be filled by one or two cars. Most of the time it’s not possible to maintain a five car length separation.

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That would leave one car length between vehicles, similar to Talladega Superspeedway. You people have ice water flowing through your veins.

I didn’t begin this thread to argue that everyone would be better off if s/he took public transportation. I began it to argue that motorists would be better off if more people took public transportation, possibly more better off if their transportation dollar were spent on public transportation than widening highways - the motorists, not the riders of public transportation.

I’m not for any forcing.

And in there lays the problem:

People, at least in the states, equate driving with racing!

Race to get ahead of someone else, race to fill a gap in an adjacent lane, race to make the next green, or to beat the next red, etc.

Yes, that’s the point. One or two cars may barge in but because of the gap it will not slow you or traffic down. It’s like the zipper merge. DON’T leave any space and anyone cutting in will cause you to slow down, disrupting traffic. Get serious Nevada.

Stop reading into it too much

We just want to drive to work, church, grocery store, etc.

We drive with the flow of traffic

We’re not ones to drive like a slowpoke, enraging all the other drivers on the road

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Stop overanalyzing this

We drive to get to work, church, grocery stores, etc.

We keep up with the flow of traffic, because we have respect for others

We don’t drive like a slowpoke, enraging all the other drivers around us

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I repeat . . . Happening to you too.

If I maintained the distance. I don’t do that. I may drop back a little or move to another lane. Mostly I follow at about 3 car lengths to discourage people pulling in between me and the car in front of me. If they really, really need to pull into my lane I’ll give them room. Often it’s just someone weaving through traffic and I have little patience for that behavior.

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But when the “flow of traffic” is 10-20mph above what’s on the speed limit signs, I take umbrage with it.

I have respect, both for others and for the law.

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