What has Torque to Yield Bolts really done for us?

The Taurus was an objectively better car than the Granada. Much better build quality, better fuel economy, better performance, better handling, better interior, etc. The Taurus was the future at the time, it was the car that showed that Detroit could build a car that could go toe to toe with the Accords and Camry’s that had been eating their lunch for preceding decade or so.

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From the graphic posted by user Tester, it would seem that TTY(torque-to-yield) bolts are a product of the present d u m b - down era in general, where wrenchers no longer have to own a torque wrench or even know how to use one.

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No offense, but your statement just now shows you apparently have no idea how the automotive business works, what mechanics do, the tools they own or what it takes to be . . . and remain . . . a mechanic

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Chris, please read about TTY bolts, it has nothing to do with avoiding a torque wrench, everything to do with placing the bolt in the correct portion of its yield curve to give maximum clamping effectiveness. A torque wrench is REQUIRED during the process. Sheesh!

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Not only do we still need to own torque wrenches, but they have to be the fancy gyroscope kind that measures degrees of rotation after specified torque is reached. :grinning_face:

You can keep using your beam wrenches…

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Taurus replaced the Fox platform Granada (LTD/Fairmont). The first generation sold from 1975 to 1980.

Each generation can be easily identified by the suspensions, the first generation had the front suspension coil springs above the upper control arms (Maverick) and leaf springs in the rear. Fox platform has coil springs over the lower control arms and coil springs in the rear.

The old straight 6/RWD was made obsolete by fuel economy requirements, manufactures don’t make cars more complicated and more expensive just to aggravate people.

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The best Taurus engine was made by Yamaha… The 3.0 liter DOHC SHO. 7000 rpm redline and smooth. Clunky 5 speed, tho.

Made the Taurus haul donkeys….

We owned one for a number of years. The rest of the car.. Meh!

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I guess that I was lucky. My '86 Taurus (3.0, IIRC) gave me no engine problems–other than the need to replace a couple of sensors w/in the first few months.

As I mentioned previously, the trans suffered a punctured pan when I drove over a small load of rebar that was lying on the pavement. I didn’t know about the pan puncture until I was a couple of blocks from home, when it suddenly did a very hard downshift. As soon as I parked, I could see the last remnants of the fluid dripping onto the ground.

Even though I essentially ran the trans dry, the trans continued to function properly for the remaining 3 years or so that I owned the car. Yes, I was very lucky.

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Toreador?

That’s not a censored word here.

Stop being a wise guy @ChrisTheTireWhisperer

You KNOW that’s not what I meant with Ford Tore___

We ALL know that’s not what I meant

A few days ago I advised you to “read the room”

That advice still stands

So TTY bolts are useful when you have dissimilar metals, so why do we still use them on engines with aluminum heads and block?

I assume more consistent clamping force for aluminum soft as butter engines?

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Nope. Stone-cold serious. I’m not Fox, not here to j e r k anyone’s chain.

It’s a shade of red for Ford pickup trucks, and no, I do not know what you intended by “Tore-”, even if every single one else “in the room” got it. Hence, Toreador was a logical guess.

So why don’t you spell it out, with spaces like many of us do to get around this censoring algorithm.

T o r e (you fill in the rest!)

Ahh yes the good old beam style torque wrench. So long as you can see the scale on them at proper viewingangle they are the superior option to the clicker type. The beam style doesn’t go out of calibration easily, simple and accurate. What’s not to love about them?

I don’t need a fancy torque wrench that has flashing lights and beeps at me. Throw the gyroscope in the rubbish bin and get me an old small block Chevy with iron block snd heads and ill run the deadbolt down with an impact and it will still be a far more reliable engine than what we are blessed with currently.

Its about high time we get back to basics that work, this new junk with its 0w20 oil and 0w7 oil is ruining the country at this point.

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Truth be told, my simple mind has no idea what you bleeped out “____”, I don’t remember hearing them called anything but a Taurus… around here anyway… But I never have been good with names…

So at least not ALL know what was meant by it…

I did also have to google the Ford Toreador color thing also… lol

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The needle jumps around when torquing a fastener or worse, when trying to set or check the preload on a pinion bearing… The operation of the needle is not smooth, whereas a clicker just clicks, check it again and your done…

If the threads are imperfect, like using old bolts in old threaded holes, the needle will jump around so much you won’t be very accurate at all, might as well just feel for it at that point…

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Because their advantages are numerous and allow for performance improvements and cost efficiencies.

Fundamentally, aluminum has a large thermal expansion and contraction rate (compared to steel) and traditional fasteners are not suited to the clamping demands.

TTY bolts have a better fatigue life, more consistent clamping force across thermal extremes, allow for weight and cost efficiencies and other advantages depending on the application.

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all right, guys :roll_eyes:

Tore

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Toredonkey, now that makes even less sense… :rofl: :rofl:

:blush:

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Ford Tore a s s, based on my forensic analysis :joy: