Takata may declare bankruptcy

I think if you read the history of how they developed that inflator, the engineers involved were very wary of the design but they were being pushed to develop it anyway. Pick an industry and the story is the same from the whiz kids pushing to beat the competition and reduce costs. Wells Fargo, GM, VW, and on and on. The pressure comes from the boys or girls at the top and the poor underlings either perform or move elsewhere. It happens everywhere, even in government and its not pleasant to buck the boss but it can be rewarding when karma comes around.

Yes they did know or should have known as the saying goes that their product was fraught with issues to raise its ugly head some years down the pike. Thatā€™s why I have a problem with the Harvard MBA types and the elites that have destroyed many businesses with their short term thinking.

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And the little guy gets left holding the bag.

I know that I personally wouldnā€™t have done a better job

Hereā€™s what I do know, if what Iā€™ve read so far is correct . . .

Takata built their inflators differently than many, perhaps most, other airbag manufacturers

Now THEY are the ones having the problems

Sure, by your definition, I am a ā€œMonday-morning quarterback.ā€

I know what that phrase means, but perhaps you should have waited until Monday after a football game to use it. The effect would have been funnier :smile:

Speaking of judging . . .

I might be reading more into this than I should be . . .

But I have a feeling maybe YOU are the one whoā€™s judging ME

And Iā€™m not even sure why . . .

No. Wait . . . I take that back

I just remembered some stuff from a few years back, and now I believe I know WHY this discussion is heading the way it it is.

Iā€™m not going to rehash the specifics, though, unless YOU request that I do so

Suffice it to say, that you just KNEW I must be wrong, and you proceeded to lecture me WHY I was wrong. Seems to me you were treating me as an elementary school teacher would treat a a student who claimed 2 + 2 = 5

Never mind the fact that several of the regulars did NOT agree with your reasoning, or your tone

:smirk_cat:

Waitā€¦what?

Why would I ā€œbear a grudgeā€ about some silly comment about what a ā€œturbo-superchargerā€ is? That was years agoā€¦and I was correct, at any event. How bitter and petty would I have to be, to carry a grudge around THAT long?

But, I apologize: at the time, I did not fully appreciate how hard it is for you to accept constructive criticism. Not just with me: whenever anyone here says anything remotely critical of mechanics, who invariably is the loudest voice of objection? Why you, of course. It must be an awful burden to lug that chip (trunk) on your shoulder around, and had I known what a crippling load your psyche bore, I would have kept my opinion to myself, correct* as it might be.

I heretofore promise to agree with whatever you say, and not correct you , even when you are in the wrong, and I have personal life experience and knowledge to add to the forum.

  • (Shortly after the discussion you reference, somebody posted an animation of the Bugatti Veryon engine, with ā€œquad turbo-supercharges.ā€ I (maturely) gave no ā€œI told you so,ā€ as I was ā€œover it.ā€ Perhaps you should go back and review the animation, and see thatā€“while stilted and archaicā€“itā€™s technically correct to refer to a turbo as a ā€œturbo-supercharger,ā€ if it delivers in excess of 1ATM to the intake of an engine.)

Just to clarify Iā€™m not qualified as an engineer and I donā€™t know what a Veryon engine is, but I do know something about how organizations function and how decisions are made. So it is from the business/organizational perspective on how things go wrong that I base my opinions on. And then once in a while youā€™ll hear a guy say ā€œscrap it, thatā€™s a bad design, thatā€™s not how we do things hereā€ and take the short term heat but save the company in the end.

@Mustangman made a good point when he mentioned accelerated life testing. The exact conditions an air bag sees cannot be duplicated during accelerated life testing. In this case, more extreme environmental conditions of time, temperature, humidity, and vibration would be used. But what are the correct levels to duplicate lifetime properly? Its not an easy issue to handle properly.

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You ARE smug

Thank you for confirming that

I know I can be a jerk

That said . . . I donā€™t forget how people treat me, even if it was a few years ago

You can assert that youā€™re correct and be pleasant about it

You, on the other hand, werenā€™t pleasant

At all

Itā€™s now what you say

Itā€™s how you say it

Disagree without being disagreeable

Or . . .

Disagree AND be disagreeable

I donā€™t want or need you to agree with me, just because you feel like patronizing me

If you want to disagree, fine

But thereā€™s no need to be a jerk, and/or try to make people look small and petty

By doing so, perhaps youā€™re actually making yourself look small and petty

Iā€™ve been guilty of that myself

At least Iā€™m willing to admit it

BTW . . . I donā€™t care about the Veryon engine animation

You know what?

Pat yourself on the back

You seem to need it

I donā€™t know of any other way to say this . . .

When you show up on this website, all the fun is removed. It truly seems you relish in pointing out perceived faults

Yeah, I said ā€œperceivedā€

Because you strike me as the kind of person that would never even admit to himself that he was ever wrong

You can stuff your worthless promise where nobody will see it :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Over my head, hope my head is not on the chopping block.

At the end of the video, there was another one, showing a Russian guy repairing a quarter panel on a VW Jetta

I found that pretty interesting

IMO that guy looks to be doing a a good job

For the record, the correct spelling is VEYRON.

;-]

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