Re. Wide Vs Narrow Tires - I rest my case

+1 for Lion9car and Mustangman

To put it a couple different ways…

Take a BMX bicycle with 20" wheels, then take a bicycle with 26" wheels and the same sprocket count drive/driven and take off with both, the 20" wheel will be much easier to accelerate vs the same bike basically with 26" wheels…

One way in drag racing to change the effective gear ratio is to change the tire size, traction aside, a 28" tall tire will out accelerate a 37" tall tire… A taller tire is the same thing as running a 2.54:1 rear gear vs running a shorter tire or a 3.08:1 rear gear…

Not to mention the added weight of trying to move a bigger wheel… A lighter rock is easier to move then a heavy rock…

The 175/70R13 is 22.6" tall, the 215/45R17 is 24.6" tall
So the added weight of the wheel/tire plus the added height and effective higher gear ratio (lower numerically) slowed the vehicle down considerately…

@ChrisTheTireWhisperer

I believe you mentioned your pastor, who apparently is about 15 years older than you, is fairly eager to adopt new technology and embrace new ways of doing things

Yet you are ADAMANTLY opposed to any kind of change whatsoever

Have you considered perhaps your pastor is taking the healthier approach and you’re elevating your blood pressure to dangerous levels and making people upset with your constant griping?

Not only that, but by all accounts you’re railing against stuff you have no experience with

You complain about these so-called fat rims and tires, yet we’ve all pointed out countless examples of family sedans and suvs that come from the factory that way, and these are NOT the “sport trim” packages, either

You haven’t actually driven any of these vehicles, yet have decided for the rest of us that it’s wrong, inappropriate, causes poor ride quality, etc. . .

I believe I’m NOT out of line to call your general attitude “infernal” . . . “extremely troublesome, annoying, etc.” is what I find when I google it

You and @Old-Days-Rick are railing against trends you can’t possibly halt

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Can’t stop it, but I can prolong my misery by driving the Caprice. Enough si



dewall to be comfortable yet is a canyon carver good enough for a law enforcement pursuit vehicle.

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Spring cleaning

Thanks for the pictures, Rick

That actually looks a lot like the one in my neighborhood, except that guy’s car is some kind of a brown color

I thought his was older because he also has the rectangular sealed beams

somehow I thought by 1989, they had the “aerodynamic” headlamps?

is that an R4 ac compressor?

have you converted to R-134a?

Haven’t seen one of those in an age

I like your “no smoking” sticker

Not too bad, Rick

Its a 89, but has older carbed 305 and front nose when I got it. Early on in its life it was stolen in Louisville is what I was told. I dont know to what extent it was stripped or damaged if at all. I got bits and pieces from the car lot. The original owners nephew told the story to the car lot and he only knew it had been stolen and recovered.

The compressor locked up on me. It is an R4 At one time it had ice cold ac. It has has had 134a in it then I went back to r12. I will put 134 back in it if I decide to fix ac.

I like it because I can drive it hard and not feel bad. I would like to get a creampuff however i dont have a proper place to keep one in nice condition right now (climate controlled garage)

Its so very humid here in the summer.

Sounds like you’d have to replace various components and flush the heck out of the system . . . and maybe even install an additional screen to capture any remaining debris . . . if you wanted to get the ac up and running again

the weather’s also very brutal in the summer months here . . . ac is an absolute necessity, imo

those look like velour seats . . . I remember them well

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Missing looking under the hood and knowing where everything is!

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I don’t think I’ll ever forget the red velour interior of the '82 Olds 98 that I drove one summer. One of my customers said it looked like the parlor of a Victorian Whxre House. :smirking_face:

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After seeing the under hood pic of Ricks Caprice, I just had flash backs of the emission systems back then, not to mention messing with the multi V belts, having to tighten one belt then another with the belts sharing some of the pulleys… :scream:

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and don’t forget the components that needed a matched set of v-belts :rofl:

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Ahh yes…let me hook up my dwell meter to the green connector on your carburetor so I can adjust the fuel mixture to pass a smog test. And then I’ll spend half an hour figuring out which belt is squealing on a cold start and then figuring which other belts need to be loosened so I can adjust the noisy one.

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cleaning the pulleys

getting the v-belt tension just right

tight enough so that there’s no squeal

but not so tight that you’re stressing some component’s bearing

figuring out just the right spot where to pry, so that you can tighten a belt, without damaging something else

ah yes, the good old days :wink:

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And they also keep momentum going and provide a smoother ride.

I tend to just let them squeal and roar the engine until they catch. Its satisfying for me to do that.

The compressor on my olds diesel locked up. I had to remove the belt to it. The remaining belts would squeal for about a block in the morning until they warmed up. Everyone knew when I left for work. Th3 car was nearing its end so I was not going to put a third compressor in.

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No, they provide a worse ride. Lower unsprung weight provides a better ride, a better ability to keep the tires on the ground in a bumpy corner and allows the shock to better smooth out the bumps.

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300+ replies in a thread based on a faulty premise. Wow!
Just … wow!

The 185/55R15 tires on the 2016 Spark are NOT NARROW, relative to its 2300 lb curb weight, no matter what “Allan F” said.

I like the “Curbside Classic” website.
They’ve also recently reprinted car mag articles from the '60s and '70s of cars whose braking performance improved dramatically when front drum brakes were replaced with disks.

Now I’m done for this month, I promise!

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If the premise that “narrower tires are better” is faulty, then explain the only recent trend (20 years) of putting race car proportioned wheels and tires on ordinary family sedans.

The biggest reason I come up with is looks - people like the appearance. I don’t feel that’s enough to justify it.

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I know you said in another thread that you had members blocked, well your post was number 438, just to make it worse…
:rofl:

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