On my screen, your post is #321.
Dave, yes you were 400 on my screen. Now to 500.
Maybe we should move on to chemtrailsš¤Ŗ

maybe you have someone on the ignore list or something
Yes, I do. That explains it!
Show off!!!
Attached: The comment section from a recent Curbside Classic article about the 1991 Honda Accord.
The highlighted statements are telling! Is it the relative size of the vehicle, the tires, electric vs conventional steering, the suspension, something else?
I know already some of you will defend the handling of the more recent Honda, and of other recent makes. Perhaps you will state that they ādonāt know what theyāre talking aboutā, and thatās ok - those of you that do are probably not old enough to remember the cars referred to in the article.
"probably not old enough to remember the cars referred to . . . "
Weāve already discussed this
You KNOW many/most of the regulars are your age, if not older
Youāre in your mid-50s, like many of us, yet you speak as if youāre older and smarter than the rest of us
PLEASE STOP WITH THE INSULTS
The capital letters were absolutely intentional

"probably not old enough to remember the
cars referred to . . . "Weāve already discussed this
You KNOW many/most of the regulars
are your age, if not older
Then pray tell why are most of you more in favor of more recent developments in car-tech, than I, who have experienced some of it and expressed my displeasure for?
Iām in the same boat regarding my now 70 year old church pastor: While my goal remains to keep each of my smart phones going for ten years, the Pastor must have the latest version within weeks of its launch.
He adopted the first Apple watch ten years ago, where as I could care less about having a watch that does everything the iPhone can.
I guess I just have an āolder mindā.
So donāt take it as an insult. Itās natural to misjudge someoneās age by how they express themself, what lifestyle they adapt, what older or newer music or tech they embraces. So, insult is not the intent.

I guess I just have an āolder mindā
Not the problem it is your attitude that you know better than anyone else on the planet.

Then pray tell why are most of you more in favor of more recent developments in car-tech, than I, who have experienced some of it and expressed my displeasure for?
My cars have had 60, then 65, then 50, 50, 50 series tires, and ALL have had none of the issues you claim. They drive fine, they handle fine, theyāre stable at speed and in corners, theyāre fine on the freeway for hours on end. So your complaints are contradicted by my 50+ years of driving experience.
The old 1992 Civic we had from 1993 (RIP 3-8-25) had 175/70R13ās on it OEM, well, that size is all but gone and basically the only ones left in that size suck, have run 14" and 17" wide low pros on it and with the 17" wheel/tires it by far handled way better than the 13" wheels, had dropped back down to the 13"s ONLY because of the extra weight of the 17" wheel/tires slowed it way down on acceleration, and NO the engine was not stock⦠lol
āmore attached to the roadā, try a go-kart.

dropped back down to the 13"s ONLY because of the
extra weight of the 17" wheel/tires slowed it way down
on acceleration,
Thatās good enough reason. 17" rims donāt belong near a Civic.
Even going back to 14"s is reasonable in that particular instance.
Doing my part to reach 500!

Thatās good enough reason. 17" rims donāt belong near a Civic.
Even going back to 14"s is reasonable in that particular instance.
If we would have had the money to buy some light weight 17" wheels, then it would have been a different story⦠Or a turbo⦠lol

had dropped back down to the 13"s ONLY because of the extra weight of the 17" wheel/tires slowed it way down on acceleration, and NO the engine was not stock⦠lol
Seriously ? A passenger would probably make more of a weight difference.

A passenger would probably make more of a weight difference.
It sounds like you might not be aware of the difference between unsprung weight and sprung weight.

passenger would probably make more of a weight difference.
Heavy wheels and tires are like adding 4 flywheels to the engine. It takes energy to spin up that extra weight. Energy best used to accelerate the car.

It sounds like you might not be aware of the difference between unsprung weight and sprung weight.
I do but I just donāt see the problem of wheel size being a big deal .