Quick Survey: What’s Stopping Enthusiasts from Going Electric?

Well, by your logic, people must think Im the most boring guy ever

Because I bought a silver/gray new Camry last month😂

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McKinsey might be a bad choice as a reference. They consult heavily for the largest oil company, Saudi Aramco and several others. I wonder how that plays into their analysis. They have also contributed heavily to the opioid crisis by helping the manufacturers turbocharge their sales. While not related to cars, I think it indicates their lack of integrity. I’m sure there are people that didn’t think their EV purchase thoroughly. I’d like to see references that aren’t as questionable as McKinsey.

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Only if it’s an L or an LE. :wink:

Not sure if Accenture, who did the study VDC posted, is much better. A spin off from Arthur Anderson that incorporated in Bermuda to avoid prosecution. Each consulting company has its skeletons in the closet if you are going to base their current work on their past actions or associations.

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OR, they think you know quality, reliability and value and have no need to be flashy… :slightly_smiling_face:

It is all in the observer’s mind.

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LE . . . the base model :wink:

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Not boring but maybe predictable and practical?

I’ve been saying this since the 90’s…there’s nothing fun or sexy about a Camry. But if you’re looking for good value and long-term reliability, it can’t be beat.

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Is it a hybrid?

If it’s a 2025 Camry, then it is a hybrid:
https://www.motor1.com/news/716462/2025-toyota-camry-hybrid-only/

Yes

It’s a 2025 model year

They’re all hybrids, as of the 2025 model year

Interestingly, unlike the Prius, it doesnt have a gigantic “hybrid” badge

All the trunk lid has is “HEV” badge

That’s pretty much the same hybrid setup we have (RX350h). We’re happy with it, and I hear that Camry gets great mpgs. With it the LE is much better than it was with the non-hybrid motor. Toyota is now making use of the battery/electric motor to get better performance as well as better mpgs.

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Back around '06 Honda came out with a 3.0 V6 Accord hybrid, that had the same ICE powerplant as a regular Accord but added an electric drive motor. It was quite a quick and powerful car for its time but short lived, because unlike other hybrids it got worse fuel economy than its conventional counterpart.

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I have NOT yet bothered to top off, reset to 0 and calculate it the correct way

The multi-function display is telling me the fuel economy since day 1 is about 48mpg, which is what consumer reports said it should be getting

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Riding around in quiet comfort at 48mpg. Can’t beat that.

I believe that when it comes to hybrids Toyota is still the standard to which other passengers cars are compared.

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You can’t go wrong with silver. I have driven silver cars all my life, and my 2002 Daewoo Lanos and 2004 Corolla are both silver.

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We must have different ideas of “fun”, “sexy”, and “performance” then. My family had a 1987 Camry (base model with 4-cylinder and hand-crank windows), a 1991 Camry (LE model with V-6, power everything, and sunroof), and a 1998 Camry (CE model with 4-cylinder and hand-crank windows). All of these were fun and enjoyable cars to drive. The 1987 and 1998 were bought new by my father, and we inherited the 1991 when our uncle passed away. Interestingly, all three were the same color–silver.

I have a tan 2012 LE that I bought new in 2011.
I have done oil and filters, wiper blades and tires.
plus one battery.

The only repair was a windshield washer pump.

My daughter has a 2010 Corolla, 5 speed manual,she has also done only maintenance except for rusted out brake lines and exhaust.

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In comparison with–for instance–Honda’s hybrids, the reliability/durability of Toyota’s hybrids is far superior.

Toyota will ride the hybrid horse until they can’t anymore. I imagine that will be at least 10 years.

For anyone ready to buy a car, be sure to take a long test drive. I test drove an Avalon in 2017 and liked it so much on the test drive that I was ready to buy it. That is, until I sat in the driver’s seat for a while. The seat back became uncomfortable and I crossed it off my list. I hade Camrys for rentals at least once after that and had the same problem. The seats may hve changed since then, and not everyone is built the same.

My brother & SIL have an Avalon hybrid, and while they really like everything else about the car, they discovered–after purchase–that the seat comfort was not good. Based on my experience with a PHEV, they are planning on trading the Avalon for a PHEV–either a 450h+ like mine, or the mechanically-identical Rav-4 PHEV.