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There has been a lot of complaints over on TW about the seats being uncomfortable in the Tacoma’s also, but most have been adding seat jackers to raise the front of the seats to support the thighs and take pressure off the back and that has seemed to make them way more comfortable to drive for hours at a time…

This seems to be a common issues for Toyota, or many of them anyway, I wonder if something like the seat jackers would help with the other Toyota’s as well??
I think the taller you are (long legged) the worse they are…

And manual seats seem to be the worst…

Definitely. Toyota/Lexus hybrids are some of the most reliable cars of ANY type. Latest CR reliability scores:

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Speaking of seats . . .

Back on 2016, we were looking for a car for my mom

We looked at a Ford Fusion

Everything was good about the car EXCEPT the seat. It felt like you were sittin in a hole, no matter how you adjusted it. And this was one of the higher trim level modes, with power everything

So we crossed that off the list

Then we drove a Civic. It handled well, was equipped with what we wanted and the seat was very comfortable, so we got that car

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That wouldn’t help my issue. The seat back was shaped wrong for me. The inside of the back jutted out beyond the bolsters and that was uncomfortable for my shoulder blades. The Accord and Impala seat backs were more dish shaped and that works better for me. I like them both but the Accord gave me more for my money, and I bought it.

Yes we do. This is fun, but not practical or particularly safe.

This is sexy, if you don’t mind getting 11mpg no matter how you drive.

This is performance, it will go 0-60 in under 3 seconds.

This is economy, it will get mid-40’s mpg but drive you crazy with noise and bumps while doing so.

Seems like most people look for a little bit of each when buying a car. But some of us place more importance on one or two of these characteristics than others.

BTW, I assume you’ve gotten one or both of your cars back on the road?

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Additionally, its 14 second zero-60 time made it a hazard when trying to accelerate onto expressways.

When someone asks me what kind of car to buy, I recommend that they narrow down their choices and then go to Enterprise, Hertz, etc., and rent that model for a few days and use it as they normally would. Even the longest dealer test drive doesn’t mimic daily use of a car.

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Yeah a long time ago but I think it was our 66 Plymouth that the manual seat was adjustable. You had to loosen some bolts on the frame but then could be tilted up or down for comfort. Our merc and the boss’s ford wagon were the most comfortable seats for me.

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That’s a good suggestion, as long as they plan to buy the same trim line of that particular car. A higher trim line is likely to have more comfortable seats, and a lower trim line could have seats with a comfort level not very different from a church pew.

Absolutely. In 2003 we wanted a new minivan and I looked at the GM triplets, the Pontiac Montana, Chevrolet Venture, and Oldsmobile Silhouette. The Olds was significantly quieter and far more comfortable than the lesser two. Our leather seats, long wheelbase, soft suspension, and quiet interior took us 500 miles (8 hours on a good day, which never exists on I-95) in good shape. My daughter insisted on listening to her Taylor Swift CD the whole way, over, and over, and over again. OK, a ton more over. She must be a terrific artist, I still like her. AND the Olds was a great car for us.

How do you mean “hole”?

Was the seat cushion softer in the middle vs around the edges?

Or was the seat so low that eve when raised all the way she could not see out?

:face_with_tears_of_joy::face_with_tears_of_joy::face_with_tears_of_joy: You stole my line - church pew!

Personally, I feel that automotive seating has never been the same since the late 1970s.

I was little at the time , hut I found the front buckets of my grandfather’s 1964 Skylark to be the most comfortable ever. I know a big complaint of seats from that era was lack of lateral support (vital in turns), but the challenge was producing a seat that struck that magic chord between lateral and cushy comfort, without feeling like…

A church pew :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

It was softer in the middle vs around the edges

The consumer reports review confirmed the uncomfortable seats, btw

At the time, one of my colleagues was a former Ford dealership mechanic and he also said the seats were bad, in his experience

Kind of like a large padded toilet seat.

:rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

Unfortunately, that pretty much described it :toilet:

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And yet I drove tractor trailers that had a top speed of 54mph on the level and never had any trouble getting onto expressways and I am sure my 71 VW bus was slower than that and I drove it on a 2500 mile road trip. My 92 Plymouth minivan was slow also but an 8700 mile road trip was no problem.

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