Photo Red Light violation (6 photos and 12-second video)

That reminded me, a while back just west of Wisconsin Dells on I90, a trooper had a guy pulled over. Another car came up on them and he had his radar gun pointed at him. The trooper waved his arms like crazy to signal the guy to pull over but he just kept going. Finally the trooper just threw up his arms and went back to attending the bird in the hand that he already had. Seems to me it was about a year ago before they raised the interstate speed to 70 like everyone else. Maybe the guy was just distracted on his phone or something and didn’t see the trooper. Takes guts though but the trooper made the right decision to let it go and don’t shoot at him.

If it was me though he probably would have told me to stay there while he tracked the guy down, which I would have done. At any rate I thought it was interesting to watch.

I got pulled over in a speed trap, 4 lane road, a guy was passing me in the left lane. I got pulled over. Went to arbitrate, I worked for the city at the time so they had to appoint an attorney to arbitrate to avoid conflict of interest. asked the guy what he would do, he said when I got pulled over in the same place I got it reduced to 3 points instead of 20 for failure to obey an official sign, sounds good to me I said.

I understand how police radars work, more than most people who use them or are “expert witness’s”. I can tell you that a radar can see through brush with little attenuation and can see over some hills depending on circumstances. There are limits. I don’t know the exact terrain where you got your ticket and you keep adding more “facts”.

The cosign effect may not be as great as you seem to imply, but again I don’t know the exact terrain. One thing about the cosine effect that people tend to get wrong is they think it is the angle between the radar and the vehicle. It is not. It is the angle between the vehicles direction of travel. The radars position or the angle it is pointing is not a factor in itself.

I added more facts because you insist on arguing with me over something that was adjudicated in my favor already. :wink:

The point I’m trying to drive at is that the physics of radar is only part of the equation in traffic law. Legal requirements comprises the other part. Even if the radar can see through solid objects, and I’m not arguing that it can’t, unless the cop can also see through solid objects, the radar reading isn’t valid until the target is visible to the cop. At that time it wasn’t valid until it was both visible to the cop, and had been tracked by the radar while remaining visible to the cop for at least 2 seconds (I think this may have changed especially with the greater use of LIDAR in the ensuing years).

At any rate, as I’ve said from the very beginning, I wasn’t speeding, and the cop did absolutely undeniably lie on the stand about how he determined I was because he assumed I wouldn’t take the time to do the measurements and math. He was wrong.

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My bad on that. In your first post on this case, you didn’t say the judge found in your favor but you did say something about the judge not charging him and I kind of took it like you lost anyway. I am having trouble reading right now due to a macular problem so sometimes I miss something.

I think it is great that you got off, but sometimes cops do make mistakes and believe they didn’t. They are not lying, but they are not accurate either. We can discuss mistaken Identity cases etc forever.

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