Oil Pressure light comes ON, only when idling

toyota
corolla

#1

I drive a 1991 Toyota Corolla LX with 193K miles and NO I haven’t had any acceleration problems yet.

My problem is that after 15 mins or so of driving around, the Oil Pressure light comes on but only when idling. Such conditions include

- When waiting at a traffic light

- A little before coming to stop at a traffic light when I have released the gas pedal.



Is this serious enough for me to stop driving the car ? I took it to a repair shop and they said it will cost me $40 to do an oil pressure check, which I have postponed for the moment.

Help please ?


#2

Oh. Also about the above problem. after the oil pressure light comes on, it goes away as soon as I accelerate just a little bit. This works even if I am on Neutral and stationary.

Did I mention I am a student, and $50 means I need to work around my budget !


#3

With this many miles, I would get it tested. If you are very lucky, the problem is a bad sensor, but this is unlikely. Your symptoms suggest worn out main and rod bearings. This can sometimes be cured with a new set of standard bearings, but only if the wear is almost all on the bearings, and not on the crank journals. Otherwise you are looking a having tghe crank turned and new bearings at a minimum. Get the oil pressure test done, but expect them to have to pull the pan and test the bearings for excessive wear. You can keep driving it, but it wont get better by itself, it will only get worse.


#4

First check your dipstick. Is there enough oil and how does it look? How does it feel? If the oil is diluted with gasoline don’t re-start it until the oil is changed.


#5

Ignoramous posted an excellent description. I agree with his postulate.

Since you’re on a very tight budget, let me suggest an oil pressure check gage (kit) at the parts store, along with a Haynes repair manual. This is an easy test, it’ll be clearly described in the Haynes manual and in the test gage instructions, and it’ll save you money over going to a shop. It’ll also get you started in doing your own maintenance, which will save you tons of cash.

If Ignoramous is right, and I’ll bet he is, that’ll mean the engine is just basically worn out. I personally would be reluctant to spend money rebuilding it for a Corolla that age. You can try some higher weight oil, like going from a 10W30 to perhaps a 20W40, it might help, might not. Some recommend against this due to concerns with the top end (valvetrain) lubrication, but on an engine this worn I don’t see that as a major concern.


#6

Any noise accompanying this flashing light? How’s the consumption. We often construct a dinosaur’s head from a pig’s tooth here, so let’s really get the picture a bit more into focus before writing this off.

I already know you’re not going to do any internal engine work. You’ll find another beater.

If you want the cheapest approach, grab heavier oil. NO - IT’S NOT THE PREFERRED WAY TO NAIL THIS DOWN, but given the immutable physics of your wallet, outside of a bad sender, you’re screwed anyway.

If you use a 30 weight, go to a 40 weight. Escalate as needed.

You’re in tactical mode. No strategy allowed. Good luck.


#7

This just means that with 193000 miles tour bearings are worn and at idle the oil flows through them too quickly to maintain enough pressure to keep the light off. As long as the light goes off when you step on the gas you have nothing to worry about, you probably have many more miles in this engine. I wouldn’t however try any top speed runs.


#8

An oil pressure test should be checks of the oil pressure at idle, at 1,000 rpm, at 2,000 rpm, and at 3,000 rpm. YOU could do these checks with a $15 oil pressure test gauge.
If the oil pressure is OK at rpms above idle, it shows that the oil pump is up to the task; though, the engine may be rather worn. If it is OK at the higher rpms, you can nurse some more time out of the engine.


#9

You could buy one of these, change it out, and hope for the best if you don’t want to have an oil pressure test done. This is an easy cheap swap.

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/catalog/parts/partsProduct.jsp?itemIdentifier=123869_0_0_4316%2C5835&skuDescription=Duralast+/+Oil+Pressure+Switch&brandName=Duralast&displayName=Oil+Pressure+Switch&categoryNValue=&sortType=&store=505&isSearchByPartNumber=&fromWhere=&fromString=&counter=1&itemId=134-0&navValue=15300134&filterByKeyWord=&productId=123869&searchText=&categoryDisplayName=External+Engine&parentId=53-0

If the light still flashes on after this then the crankshaft bearings are probably worn out and this means a new engine. As a stop gap measure increase the viscosity of the engine oil; meaning a heavier weight oil.


#10

The Auto Zone Web site (of the above link) states that they don’t have the oil pressure switch. Their isn’t a photo, either. Try another store.


#11

Wow! Thanks for the super fast and extremely helpful response. So, I am getting a bad feeling about this whole thing now.
Anyway, just to clarify geeaea’s question - No there is no other noise accompanying this light coming on or going off. So far as I can tell there is nothing different about the operation of the car (gas consumption, acceleration, etc.)
I spoke to the repair guy again and he said something similar. He said he wants to do the oil-pressure check to figure out if it is just because of a bad sensor switch or the engine wearing out.
The way I understand this now is I have two options,
1.) Get the oil pressure check done, and hope it is just a bad sensor.
2.) Get the oil pressure check done, and if it involves a worn out engine…then upgrade to a higher viscosity oil and hope that the engine won’t quit on me.

Anyway, I use this car for getting around town and going to school. That is about approx 20 miles of driving in the day. I usually go to New Jersey from Ohio (~500 miles) twice a year, but I guess I can’t take my trusted car anymore…(sigh!)


#12

I have had this problem for the last 2 months or so. I have been going out of town fairly often (no I didn’t drive this out of town), so didn’t get the time to get this done. Also, I waited to save a little money to absorb part of the financial impact.

Anyway, To reply to Rod Knox - I actually took this in for an oil change and asked the mechanic to look at this problem. I also asked about the oil. He said he looked and the oil was fine. It wasn’t low or anything.


#13

This is NOT something to get obsessive about…Have your oil changed and use 10/40. That should improve things.If that light still flickers, add a can of STP…

As a rule, you need 10 PSI oil pressure for every 1000 engine RPM. A new “oil pressure sending switch” might improve things also…About $10…


#14

The OP doesn’t even have to use a Toyota oil pressure switch as most open at around the same pressure; usually under 5 PSI. Heck, try a Chevy or Ford switch.
An idiot light switch from any vehicle will work seeing as how most of them use the same standard thread; with the switches for the oil pressure gauge equipped, not light, models usually being larger.


#15

I am having the same issue with my '98 Chevy Malibu, with one possibly significant difference. This happened later the same day (yesterday) that I had an oil change - also occurs only at idle speed, goes off with acceleration, and returns at idle. Checked the oil level once the engine cooled (half hour), thinking perhaps there was a leak or some such. It appears to me that too much oil was added, as it is a bit above the fill line, though garage guy says no. 4.5qts of 5w30.

Is this a coincidence that this happened within hours of an oil change. If I am right…could too much oil cause the sensor to kick on? And is driving this, my all time favorite car, with possibly too much oil do further damage?

Thanks!