I ran a stopped school bus

It says this law applies to Newyork ( all of it ) and not specific to a certain state.

It’s a very ridiculous law and I’m surprised this law holds up very well.

I’m told that law enforcement just began enforcing it starting in 2019 by using surveillance cameras.

I told my family to expect tickets in the mail at any given time, and to be prepared to sleep in jail for 30 days :grin:

???

New York is a state - one of 50 states in the U.S.!

Are you alright?

In any case, I’m sure New York DOT doesn’t require you to stop for an indicating school bus in this scenario:

I’m laughing so hard.

My apologies. I get mixed up with terminology being a naturalized citizen quite often.

But yes, That’s what I meant. Newyork state.

May I know how you determined or arrived at the idea the law doesn’t require us to stop in the scenario you presented ?

I’m asking because I want to be absolutely sure I don’t get tied up with the law again.

Show my image to a police officer in your town, or to a state trooper.

They will clarify.

Also, know what a ‘Jersey barrier’ is? Typically 1 to 1.5meters high. If a concrete barrier like that separates opposite direction lanes of travel, I seriously doubt you’d have to stop for a school bus under that circumstance.

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According to New York’s DMV site, It requires that all traffic stops

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Wow. Is that from NY DOT or DMV manual?

That’s really strict.

According to CT 14-279, you would not have to stop for a stopped and indicating school bus on a road represented by the right hand most example.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/192ezfd/oc_never_seen_this_many_people_run_a_stopped/

This video is interesting, as well as the comments.

Oh boy. There was a French man somewhere around 1830 that toured the country to analyse what makes the us work. He wrote part one and part two a little later. Even back then he commented that New York supported democracy the least of any other state at the time. The American experiment by touqueville. Just get a lawyer and let her do the talking and just look dejected in the background.

With video evidence against you, do you still believe you can beat the rap? The attorney will come out as a winner.

I assume something’s going on, wait it out.

It’s going to be difficult to beat the ticket because this whole thing came as a surprise to me. Since I did not see the bus, I can only trust the accusation by the trooper. He said he saw when I ran a stopped school bus. As for myself, I had no clue there was a stopped school bus.

My lawyer simply said he would take care of it. So let’s see.

… and, in the meantime, I strongly suggest that you engage in as many activities as possible that are not related to the issue of this traffic ticket. Becoming obsessed with one issue is not healthy, and is really not productive.

I urge you to just put the entire issue in the hands of your attorney, and to go on with your life–no matter what the outcome in court may be.

Of couse not, New York state law can only be enforced in New York State… Where is this, the UK, NZ, Australia, etc… Notice the vehicles are driving on the Left Side of the road, An eye test, click bait… L o L , , ,

Can you please clarify?

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Before making all those assumptions, about click bait, etc.

I shared that as an example of ‘two separate roadways’. Divided by grass, concrete, vertical barriers, stacks of tires, old toilets, whatever…

DOTs of different states are split on whether or not one must stop for a stopped school bus on the roadway across the grass(or other divider) between the roadways.

If the road I provided was in New York state, apparently, all traffic must stop for a school bus, regardless of where they are in relation to the stopped bus.

If the same road was in Washington state, traffic on only the same roadway as is the bus, must stop for it.

Conversely, if only a single or double yellow line divides opposing sides of a street or road, I’m sure all states require everyone to stop for the stopped bus.

Tennessee state law:

• If you are on a two-way street, drivers in both directions must stop for the bus.
• If you are on a divided highway with a left turn lane in
the center, both directions of traffic must also stop for
the bus.
However, if there’s a physical median in the middle of
the road, one with grass or a concrete divider, only
trac on the side with the bus needs to stop. Vehicles
heading in the opposite direction should still use
caution.

So it seems NY state is alone in requiring all vehicles, regardless of direction of travel, to stop for an indicating stopped school bus, even if both sides of roadway(non highway) are separated by a moat populated with alligators(!)

I do not know what my home state Connecticut’s law is on such a scenario, but will share here if/when I find out.

Update

Per our local police/traffic div:

CT State Statute 14-279:

Raised median or barrier, or grass separating opposing roadways, stopping for bus on opposite side not necessary, but proceed with caution.

So New York state is the sole exception, requiring both sides to stop, regardless of whether yellow stripe, jersey barrier, grass, or moat full of alligators, separates them…!

If a school bus is on the opposing side of the divided highway, you aren’t required to stop your vehicle. However, you must come to a stop even if the school bus is on the opposite side of the road. When the school bus flashes yellow lights, it is a warning that you need to slow down and get ready to stop your vehicle.

Pass a School Bus Ticket in Connecticut – CT Ticket Defenders : 844pulledover.com.

Nope. Double yellow line means only traffic on the same side of the road must stop (in WA).

It certainly can be confusing knowing when to stop and when not to given the various regulations from state to state.

Wow!

I’d say Washington and NY States are polar opposites on who does or doesn’t have to stop for a stopped school bus.

Connecticut, somewhere in between