I’m aware of the etymology of short bus, and even in CT it’s still used more often than twinkie wagon(a reference to the shape of the roof they used to rivet onto the roof of a standard Ford or Chevy van to increase headroom). I’ve heard both terms for these buses, that’s all.
Each day I see adults cross the road after exiting a bus, then walk to the corner where the crosswalk is located. Adults are a bad influence on children, sooner or later you will see a child in a hurry, cross the road outside of a crosswalk.
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The term is naturalized citizen. No problem, and I just want to make sure you know the correct term for future use.
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Even at my home there is a cross walk, and despite me being disabled and motorists can clearly see my handicap, they, most of the time, don’t stop for me to walk across the cross walk.
So I understand. It’s really sad.
Thank you, jtsanders.
I can share the same finding. I’d have been dead long ago had I assumed the vehicle cross traffic will always stop at a crosswalk. Even if the crosswalk is flashing bright yellow warning lights that somebody has pushed the button & is waiting to cross.
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Yup!
My last career, as a Paralegal for a Deputy AG, required that I hand-deliver Court Complaints to the Courthouse after I had drafted them. The cross walk in front of the Couthouse was clearly marked with signs stating “Stop for Pedestrians”, and yet–on a daily basis–I risked being hit by cars that refused to even slow down for me as I attempted to cross the street.
Just wondering if the children actually cross that 4 lane road or highway. Are there traffic lights or a pedestrian overpass?
And are you able to represent yourself in court?
Grades 1-3 lived on a farm in Wisconsin, bus stopped at each farm to pick up students no matter how many, often just one, in my cas my self and my brother. Grade school and High School rode the same bus. That was in the late 50s, then we moved to Minneapolis. Almost everybody walked to school, K through 6 grade walked home for lunch. After I graduated from HS busing was introduce to balance the schools.
I remember riding to elementary school on a school bus. The bus picked us up in a suburban neighborhood, went pretty far west to a farm and picked up a girl, then went to school. It was just her and I don’t recall any other children that far out.
The school buses in my county have set stops according to area/street and student pick up, it doesn’t matter if only 1 student or 10 students are at that stop… 3 generations have taken the bus to school here (same county) since 1975ish, my grandson rides it now…I see 1 neighbor kid get on and off a different school bus (different ages and times) at the same stop as my grandson…
Sure, that makes perfect sense. But here in the city I see a bus stop to pick up one kid, then drive 2 blocks to pick up another. When I was growing up in Los Angeles, we never had a bus stop for fewer than 3-4 kids. My bus stops were always 2-8 blocks from my house.
Hello everyone.
So I’m back at the scene where I was ticketed for passing a school bus, and let me tell you this, I drove back here intentionally to further examine the law.
This time, I was in the opposite direction going north and I’m in the far right of 3 lanes. I made sure to keep my eyes on the opposite side ( note, my vision acuity in both eyes is 20/10 ). I’m literally seeing better than 20/20. My peripheral vision is perfect.
While traveling in the far right, I could not see the opposite traffic as a result of cars and bigger vehicles next to me !!!
Then as I continued on, I saw two semi trucks on the opposite side coming down a slight crest, and guess what ? As the trucks drove past, a hidden mini school bus was behind there with its yellow lights flashing, and no one on my side of the road saw it !!!
I didn’t stop because I sure as hell would have interrupted traffic and caused a wreck.
This is very dangerous, guys! Please believe me that it is.
I have a question concerning highway.
I understand the law in NY requires all traffic to stop for a school bus, even on the highway.
So would I need to stop for something like this illustrated in the picture above ?
Common sense says no. But the law isn’t necessarily common sense. You’ll have to research the actual wording of the applicable traffic code. Often fairly easy on the internet to access the exact text, using Google. Is this topic covered in NY state’s DMV driver’s manual?
It has been mentioned many times that it isn’t necessary to stop for a school bus on a divided roadway, in most areas.
There are different types of highways, that is an Interstate Highway. Do school buses unload passengers on the interstate? Perhaps under an emergency situation.
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Of course the law isn’t common sense. But sadly, we get ticked and thrown in jail for weird laws.
According to the DMV article “ You must stop for a school bus even if it is on the opposite side of a divided highway .
And what about route PERPENDICULAR to mine?
I know the book I studied from and passed to get my license taught that we only stop when moving in front of the bus or behind it.
But I’m double checking here that perpendicular route doesn’t apply.
You always have the right to make a common-sense argument to the judge, provided it is backed up by evidence, photos, tape measured distances etc. For the photos be sure to take advantage of Google’s overhead and street view functions. It’s sometimes possible to see the same locations on earlier dates, might prove useful. The bus probably is stopping at the same location 5 days a week, so that’s another opportunity to take some photos. For the best chance of success, keep it brief, & suggest to focus your presentation on indisputable evidence like photos, rather then your opinions.
In my area the courts will usually offer to reduce the charge if you agree to and complete traffic school.
Respond with a not guilty plea, represented by a lawyer, show up with a tape measure and photos, I’d like to sit in the back of the court room to observe the outcome.
In which state??
Whenever you quote a Motor vehicle department, you must reference which state’s DMV. Remember, most states DOT/DMVs probably have a lot in common, but likely differ on many finer points.
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