Yet NY state law basically entitles school buses to stop anywhere, and traffic, on the opposite side of basically anything, must stop for them. Even as I said earlier, even a 4ft tall jersey barrier, or a body of water, separating north and southbound, or east and westbound lanes.
What I notice is that video cameras make the road look clear and easy to see, which is why many people don’t understand what’s the problem with seeing a big yellow bus with its light flashing on the opposite side of a 4 to 6 lane roadway.
In reality, our peripheral vision will pick up the bus on the opposite side ONLY from a far distance in front of us. The issue is: as the bus approaches closer to us, our peripheral vision is being obstructed by nearby vehicles to our left — worse if the road has a slight turn.
Where I live, as soon as I enter the roadway, I’ll be driving on a 8 lane roadway. 4 lanes on each sides. That’s incredibly wide.
The less lane a road has, the easier it is to pick up a school bus, as well as to observe what’s going on over the opposite side of the road.
Today I was talking to an officer about this and he didn’t give a rat butt what I was saying. He kept repeating himself that it’s the law and we are to obey the law.
Yes, and also the bus could easily stop at a stop light where traffic is expected to stop or to be alerted.
This is what I see in other countries.
But to stop the bus anywhere convenient for the bus driver is not a smart thing. There are too many rules already to follow while driving and to suddenly see a bus stopping on the other side of a road just seems overkill.
What matters is where a person is driving . What the is rule in other countries means nothing .
You best hope that the officer you were talking to does not see you break some rule of the road because you probably annoyed him just like you are doing on this Forum . Time to move on .
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In most states they don’t. They stop where it’s convenient for the student. Grade school (1-6) the bus must stop at their house if possible. They couldn’t where we live because there’s no easy place for the bus to turn around at on our dead-end street. So either my wife and I had to drive the kids to end of the street and wait for the bus with them, or we had to drive them to school.
In my area, where the schoolbus stops are staggered every 3 or 4 blocks, the bus drivers maneuver their vehicle so that it is more or less diagonal in the intersection. While that placement doesn’t make it impossible for drivers to pass them, it certainly makes it more difficult, and the extreme maneuver that is necessary for them to pass the bus makes their action more obvious when it is recorded by the onboard video cameras.
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That’s cool.
I’ve been to a number of countries: England, Germany ( I’m actually german by default even though I was originally born in Jamaica ), Canada, Cuba and China.
School bus stops make perfect sense in those countries, and in China the kids must step on a circular pavement next to a crosswalk and wait for traffic to completely stop before they may proceed to cross and with their right hand held up.
Where I’m from, whenever a school bus is seen on the road, people try to get ahead of it as soon as possible because the bus will hold up traffic every few blocks up the road, as if people don’t have places to go. So this is why we see many people intentionally pass a school bus. It’s very annoying situation in NY.
Edit: Canada’s school bus law is like here in NY.
If you ever served in the military, you get real sick of the “My wife she” BS. He gets to go to a more favorable duty station and someone else has to take his place. I was not in the Army, but I had a cousin married to an Army tank commander. As long as this did not involve an overseas assignment, one base is probably as good as another.
It was a real sore point in the Navy when a sailor would try to get out of a cruise (overseas deployment) because of a “my wife she”. If pushed too hard, like writing to a congressman, it would generally result in an LTH discharge.
Sorry to get off topic with this.
Exactly
No BS, despite your accusation of such.
Have a nice life.
I can see a violation of the military code of justice for trying to weasel out on job duties and training such as with a cruise assignment, and thus triggering a less than honorable discharge, but I can’t see how a family member making a request for a change in duty station would have the same impact on job performance. Training and job performance and criminal or immoral conduct are code violations and reasons for a less than honorable discharge. Obviously adultery charges are not often perused for navy men on assignment, unless of course the wife files for divorce and pushes the issue with the commander.
We had class after class on the requirements of the ucmj and the bottom line was just do your job and don’t consider yourself in America.
Exactly, and I’m glad that somebody “gets” it.
After serving his 1 year hitch in Vietnam, my brother was sent to a base in the Deep South, where he was an accountant for the Army. Somehow, I doubt that doing accounting work at a base closer to NJ was an impediment to the defense of The US.
hmmm … I’m not a military guy myself, but I expect good group comradery is probably very important. The more that everyone in the group feels like they are treated the same as everyone else, consistent with the US’s well-deserved egalitarian values, seems like it would help toward that end.
If one person gets an assignment change, and another doesn’t … I could see it might cause some grief.
In my subdivision, there is a divided main road that goes through the center of the subdivision (East to West…). Almost all of the streets coming off the main road are cul de sacs, there are two streets that branch off the main road, one that goes North and the other goes South, and all of its off-shoot roads are also cul de sacs… The school buses do go up those two branches, as they are able to turn around at the end.
I write busses as we have two buses that pick up the kids, and it does not matter if its elementary school, middle/junior high school, or high school, the East bound bus only picks up kids on the South side of the Main road and the West bound bus only picks up the kids on the North side of the main road…
The busses do not stop at homes, they only stop at intersections. If there is a disabled child, a special bus with ramp and attendant does go to their home picks up them up.
Now for the kicker, I live at the end of a quarter-mile long cul de sac and half of the parents pack up their kids in the car and drive “all the way” down to the bus stop and sit there and idle until the bus comes…
Now, we are in a very, very low crime area and doe to the road design, there is no one taking shortcuts through our subdivision and speeders are not tolerated…
Well not all the parents drive, some walk their kids to the bus stop and if someone is speeding, the parent will walk right out in front of them to slow them down…
lol … unfortunately, your situation is not unique, at least compared to the bizarre stuff I see here. I frequently see neighborhood high school kids picked up at school, driven right to the sidewalk in front of their driveway, let out, only after the kid exits, then the driver parent parks the car … lol …
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Around here in the more rural areas, you’ll see a lot of home built bus shelters for the little kiddies, for pick up and drop off. By the mail boxes at the end of long driveways. Some are more elaborate than others. I’ll have to pay attention but I think the kids get dropped off at the shelters so they don’t have to walk along the highway for half a mile or so. It wouldn’t surprise me if some have heat and lights, depending on the farmer involved.
And no there are pretty specific violations in the ucmj and the resulting penalties. I didn’t see hurting someone’s feelings as a violation unless a sexual violation or an officer getting involved with an enlisted.
Probably told the story before, but here we go again. Friend had a turn lane in front of their drive on a 4 lane highway. Bus was not allowed to stop in the turn lane. Turned out dangerous for her kids getting off as people would use the turn lane while kids were getting off the bus to walk up their drive on the right of the bus.
On one of the roads that I used to take to work, the homes are mostly older, bungalow types built only 100 feet or so from the roadway. During the winter, there were two homes where Mommie Dearest and child would sit in an idling SUV, adjacent to the road, while waiting for the bus. Apparently, these kids were considered to be unable to wait for the bus without heat, and without parental protection.
Parents around here seem pretty concerned with their kids being bullied while walking to school, waiting for a bus.
And walking to the bus stop with Mommy holding your hand will certainly stop that. 
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I’m not big but I’ll just say that big kid had a confused look on his face when I flipped him on the ground. You only need to know a few moves. I think ever kid should learn karate though to build confidence,
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