You didn’t post a link to an article. You posted a link to very brief online “exhibits” that are not in any way full historical accounts of early textile mills. Not only that, but they’re not just limited to Lowell (your mention of which spurred my own comments). It’s incredibly general stuff. I was talking about specifics in terms of the historical development of things in Lowell. And I know plenty about it - more than you’ll get out of museum exhibits. So spare me the museum version.
You’re missing the historical context entirely. Lowell wasn’t even a “small rural town” when the mills were built. They had to build the town to attract a labor force. And the initial mill girls were not coming from small towns and didn’t NEED jobs. They were coming from the rural farms in the countryside. The jobs would supplement the family income and possibly provide some manner of dowry. And that is all.
Aside from that, when I first referred to this I was in the midst of agreeing with you. My elaborations were about what kinds of things affect working conditions, including wages. I have no idea why feel a need to be so argumentative about nothing at all.
Mike, stop being so stone headed. Why don’t you point out to me where I denied that there were horrendous working conditions. I didn’t. And you apparently just can’t or won’t read what anyone else says. I simply made a comparative statement about the early phase vs. the later phases. And I explained it. And you just still want to “prove” to me with meaningless “gotcha” links that I’m overlooking horrendous labor conditions?
If labor conditions at the beginning were as “horrendous” as they later became, the system would not have existed because they wouldn’t have had a labor force. I suggest you even read your own sources more carefully, including even that anemic Wikipedia article. Look for the paternalistic (though obviously profit motivated) origins in there. And look for one turning point around 1830, and for references to immigrant labor. Or heck, God forbid maybe read a history book.
No one - especially me - has argued that there weren’t horrendous labor conditions. That was never even the point. Get over it. I am. Over and out.
When I think of linen mills, I am reminded of the movie Norma Rae which starred Sally Field. I think the movie may have depicted the conditions in the 1950-60 period.
I just hope everyone had as much negative passion about the Last admin with the after covid prices, you know like eggs going 140+%, not to mention everything else, as y’all are have with this admin…
And those prices were even for America made/produced stuff, so unlike the current topic, you had no other options…
I am about to buy an anytime on bypass for my truck for the ECT power button, it runs about $33.99ish, from China it has an extra $45 shipping, but I found another supplier that has it for the same $33.99ish out of Cali with free shipping, guess which one I will be going with…
That is all I am going to say about it… I don’t need any feed back on the last 4 years, I lived it…
And incase I went to political on this and offended anyone… @cdaquila, I will alert the powers at be for you…
speaking of the bird flu and people stocking up on eggs . . .
The past 2 or 3 weeks, finding a parking spot at Costco has been easier
for reference, I like to be there right when they open up
Parking has been a little easier and folks are behaving like decent human beings again
Not too long ago, I saw married couples BITTERLY fighting
It usually went something like this . . . “Honey, why are we buying eggs AGAIN? Why are we buying 15 dozen eggs AGAIN? We don’t even have enough friends, neighbors and relatives that we can use them before they go bad!”
The tension was so high, that you could cut it with a dull knife
I can imagine the car ride home was probably thoroughly unpleasant, as well
It appears that car insurance rates were already due to increase by ~5%, but Insurify states that tariffs will add an additional 3% to car insurance, so don’t be too surprised if your car insurance bill climbs by 8%.
My policy comes up for renewal in June, and I will report back on the increase in my bill.
I just got my bill for one car a few days ago. $331 for six months. A year ago icy eas $307 so all in all not a big increase. The invoice for the other car should be coming shortly. Usually a little less.
A little under 8%. Percentages are probably a better way to put it. My premiums are a lot higher than yours and 8% would seem like a lot more. In dollar terms, it is of course, but we can’t compare unless we normalize the data somehow.
