@keith
Please. Non profits DONOT get most of their income from donations. You are oly talking about charitable donations that you may give to some institutions and the non profits and the number of service organizations that are non profit that ALL get their monies from fees is much, much, much greater then you think. Private Educational institutions are non profit and they get the majority of their income from tuitions. Do you know how many there are ? Road associations are not govt. institutions and govt. AGENCIES ARE NOT NON PROFITS. They are govt. agencies and have no status with the IRS as a profit or non profit.
I think you are confusing the definition of a non profit. Athletic conferences, clubs, officiating organizations, recreational facilities that aren’t government related can all be non profit and not get any monies form donations. So, saying that non profits get money mostly from donations is incorrect. Some do, some don’t and you can’t paint them all with the same brush. Saying non profits are all associated or even most of them survive mostly on donations, is too narrowly discriptive.
62% of the 3900 non govt. general hospitals in 2003 were non profit. And, charged insurance companies and patients fees for services. What the number is now, I couldn’t say. That’s just an illustration of the number of hospitals that DONOT mostly survive on charitable donations.
Asecular, you make bold statements. It’d be nice if you supported them with some facts or at least explained your positions. Explain the fallacy of the “brown eggs are local eggs” to me. You’ve expletived their ads, perhaps an explanation is in order.
dagosa, you are correct that I did not consider fraternal organizations in my statement about non-profits. I stand corrected. I might still be correct if you count the dollar amounts instead of the number of organizations though, but I can’t back that up.
I guess I wasn’t clear about government being non-profit. The federal government is banned by law from operating any for profit business. Thats not to say that they can’t offer services and charge a fee, for example the entrance fee to our National Parks. I guess I should have said that governments are a not-for-profit, but as a lot of people assume not-for-profit and non-profit are the same thing, something I was trying to differentiate, it looks like I fell into my own trap.
I did not mean that the government is a non-profit under the definition by the IRS, only that they are non-profit in that they don’t make a profit. I mean, seen the national debt lately?
@Keith
You could very well be correct and I agree when talking about actual dollar amounts given to charities, charities who probably are non profits which could satisfy the requirements of the donor having his a deductable count. Most of the wealthy use deductions of this type in some form or another.
I would like to look at our national debt. I believe, the majority of it emulates from two causes; lowering taxes and managing two unpayed for wars. We are still struggling under the influence of both. The yearly deficit has been dropping every year since Obama took office from the last fiscal year Bush left office…,he was the one to sign the Wallstreet Bailout. So we are headed in the right direction.
That’s the deficit. The debt has been accumulating for years and years. I think after WWII it was almost whacked out but after Viet Nam it went nuts again. Afore you can tackle the debt though, ya have to eliminate the deficit-just like all the states have to do every two years. And most cities and counties except Detroit.
My tenure for giving blood was short,after watching what some of the inept personall did and finding out what they charged for it, I said no more.Something like 90% of the Red Crosses money is spent in the organization,not much bang for the buck-Kevin
There is no reason why the Red Cross could not pay some token fee, like $25 per unit as it did in the past. I know the arguments against it, but $25 is pretty token and at least covers some of your off WiFi time.
It was a TV commercial campaign promoting local eggs. The theme song was “Brown eggs are local eggs and local eggs are fresh”. It ran for quite awhile.
If you didn’t even know what it was, how could you call it “lies?” Don’t you think it behooves you to find out what something is before calling it a lie?
If you can find eggs fresh from the farm, some are brown and some are white but you’ll never taste a better egg than one that is only a day or two old.
I agree, Bing. Although in my case I hard boil them and the brown ones seem to have a tougher shell. They don’t crack as much while boiling them. Don’t know why, or if it’s even fact or perception.
Anyway, that wasn’t the point of my post, nor do I intend to defend the advertisement. I have no vested interest in the ad whatsoever. The post that prompted asecular’s comment was intended to illustrate an example of the type of activities a coop does, to illustrate what a coop is.