That platform is used for the Cadilac CT4 and CT5, this vehicle platform wasn’t developed solely for Buick dealers.
The coupe will be a Camaro sibling, since there are no Pontiac dealers it must be sold at Buick dealers.
In 2025 they sold 12,000. Not sure if that’s good or bad for this type of vehicle.
Not really a fan of sedans, the closest I ever got to buying a sedan was test driving a 62 Lincoln, but did not buy since I planned to dodge the draft in a few months. In the early 2000s tested a used Lincoln Town Car, but wasn’t satisfied with the power from that small V8.
I did have a four door hardtop, a 72 Electra 225, the only other vehicles I owned with four doors were wagons. I was considering trading my F150 for a Ranger but Ford did away with the two doors, so did GM. Will Toyota follow them and eliminate the two door Tacoma?
Maybe 12,000 is decent. Audi sold 18,000 A5 and S5 cars in 2025. They don’t break it down further. BMW doesn’t break down M cars into sub-model. They sold about 100’000 of all their M line in 2025. MB only shows AMG GT sales, not other AMG sales separate from the similar models.
Maybe, but–IMO–that figure likely doesn’t reach their break-even point.
Thinking back to the '50s & '60s, Studebaker’s break-even point at their US factory was somewhere around 200k units per year. After several years of selling 100k units–or less–they transferred manufacturing solely to their Hamilton, Ontario factory, where the break-even point was around 20k units per year. When they failed to sell more than ~10k units per year, even the Ontario factory had to cease operations.
But, that was many years ago, and I think that vehicle manufacturing is much more efficient nowadays, so… Quien sabe?
The problem with those older luxo-barge coupes with the long doors was their weight and the tendency to sag over time.
I still get a chuckle out of your story- mainly because I had to do that once too!
With some marques, that problem wasn’t limited to large luxo models. Back in the '70s, a friend of mine owned an AMC Hornet coupe, and after ~3 years, the doors began to sag. When it got to the point of being almost impossible to latch the doors, he had to pay a body shop to install new hinges and do some other repairs.
A lot of that has to do with price point. The lower the price of a vehicle - the more units they have to sell to break even. Corvette sales are only about 30,000 annually. Obviously, they’re making money,
US market;
The last true 2 door standard cab Tacoma was no later than 2015 (end of the 2nd gens), 2016 and up (3rd and 4th gens) sells an Access Cab (XtraCab) with 2 front doors and 2 rear suicide doors and then the double cab (true 4 door), but no more standard cabs… All the 2nd gen and up Access Cabs are long beds… 1st gen (1995-2004) Tacoma’s were the small/mini trucks, 2nd gen (2005-2015), (3rd gen 2016-2023)(4th gen 2024^^) and up are the mid size trucks…
Toyota try’s to keep the Tacoma’s (and other models maybe) as simple as possible, only 2 wheel bases, RWD and 4x4’s same suspension design (all interchangeable) but with different springs and shocks for different trim levels, mostly only 2 or 3 ride heights…
That is true, and it’s also true that Studebaker had very high overhead expenses as a result of having to use and maintain a huge multi-story factory complex that was very old and very outdated. What might have been appropriate for the manufacture of wooden wagons in the late 19th Century was massively oversized when it came to the production of modern cars.
Also, they paid their assembly line workers more than “the big 3” did, because they were afraid of strike-related shutdowns. One industry analyst in the '50s estimated that it cost Studebaker as much to build one of their cars as it cost GM to manufacture a Buick–but Studebaker had to sell their cars at Ford/Chevy/Plymouth prices.
For a specialty model within the greater CT5 lineup 12K is not bad. GM sold the single platform Corvette for years building 15K a year. The base CT5s pay most of the costs so the Blackwing can bring in the cash.
Same for the CT4 and CT4 Blackwing. A buddy of mine bought one with a 6 speed manual. I called it a 4 door Corvette… it is fast and comfortable.
I’ve only seen one at a car show and on Jay Leno’s Garage.
My buddy had to aggressively search to find one with a manual. He put a hold on one 80 miles away. When he was working with the salesman, he told him there was another buyer in the dealership waiting to snatch it up if he did not buy! My buddy got a GM discount so there was no negotiation on the price.
But, yes, I have not seen many on the road either, manual or automatic.
15k a year. Would be the ct5 line as a whole for 2025, Black-wing limited to 1,000/yr roughly. Not bad for the class but bmw moved more 5 series. No more breaks out the performance model in sales figures. Dealers or factory reps would know. Like how popular the manual trans vs auto.
I found a reference for the 2023 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcats. The table shows about 12,000 units that year