Follow the good advice @Tester gave you above. That business of changing the oil at 500 miles on a new car is ancient and dates to the days of cruder engine machining that left “rough spots” on various engine components that were smoothed with use. If any shavings are left in the oil during the break in period they are filtered out by today’s excellent oil filtration.
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Thank you kindly
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=VSWhn4c_ZB1uyEi4&v=nBBUQJKTaiM&feature=youtu.be that’s the 1,000 mile oil change person
Just about nobody changes oil at 1000 miles now, and engines last just fine. Plenty of nonsense YouTube videos out there.
Looking at this rationally, Toyota has a 5 year engine warranty and dearly wants to avoid the expense of providing and installing a replacement engine.
On the other hand “Slippery Sam” on the Net makes his money off of “Hits” and couldn’t give a hoot if you spend your money on a blown engine because it’s not coming out of their pocket.
So who are you going to trust?
For my money, as long as the engine is under warranty that vehicle is going back to the dealer for every scheduled maintenance. It’s cheap insurance and if anything happens, it’s coming out of the manufacturer’s pocket and not mine!
After the warranty is over it’s entirely up to you but I’ve encountered situations where the manufacturer/dealer has offered “cash considerations” for repairs on vehicles that have been consistently maintained under the maintenance schedule so it’s also something to think about.
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It’s 5 years or 60k miles (or there abouts)…NOT unlimited miles. I don’t know of ANY engine from ANY manufacturer that won’t last 60k miles. It’s keeping a vehicle long past the warranty period (which many of us on this forum do). My 5k mile oil change interval has allowed us to keep our vehicles for well over 300k miles. 10k mile oil change interval - Let other people experiment with that. I’m not going to. It’s cheap insurance.
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Don’t guess, know what the extended service agreement says. Pull it out and read it. You paid a lot of money for it and you should know what you paid for.
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You simple question generated a lot of postings and I may have help to generate some of them by simply posting what the dealer recommended… I do not go 10,000 miles between oil changes, at the most one-year, and here is why…
Following is an excerpt from a posting I made last Oct concerning, what else “Oil Changes…” The link to this posting is at the end, after the excerpt…
" . . . I usually take care of any maintenance on the vehicles ('84 Harley, '85 Toyota, '01 Ram 2500, '19 Toyota, and the '20 Honda) and with all these vehicles to choose from and we are driving less than 15,000, on average a year, between all the vehicles, each vehicle getting less than 4,000 miles a year. The '85, '19, and the '20 have lifetime oil and state inspections, and only the Harley and the Ram are my main concern. But the Ram gets so little use, last year (2022) I did not need to add an ounce of fuel and that one tank of diesel lasted the whole year. All vehicles are garage kept and the garage is attached to the house and well insulated, and there is a family room over the garage, so there is very little temperature variation . . . "
It’s my understanding that some manufacturers use a break-in oil with extra molybdenum. For those cars, you’re specifically not supposed to change the oil early.
I also vote to stick with the normal oil change interval here.
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the dealership will gladly take your money to do whatever you would like to do to YOUR car. I agree with the others that an oil change this early is unnecessary, but I also don’t recommend to ever stretch an oil change to 10,000 miles either.
Congrats on your new Toyota!
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In the old days, the cylinder bores got a final hone with stones. Only a trickle of cutting oil was used. Today, diamond cutting inserts are used and the engines are flooded with a synthetic, water soluble cutting oil during the machining process. Not much debris is left behind.
I personally would do the first oil change at around 3k, the second at 7.5k and every 7.5k after that. That has worked for me for many years and I have kept most of my vehicles for near 300k, or totaled by another driver which ever came first.
My daughter has a 2014 Camry with the 2.5L 4 cylinder engine, 130k on it. I found that the 10k oil change interval was leaving sludge inside the oil filter housing. I switched her to a 7.5k OCI (oil change interval) and that has stopped, except the oil change I just did last weekend. She went over the mark and the oil change was done at 9k. I found just a tiny amount of sludge in the filter housing again.
My advice, use a 7.5k OCI. Your first oil change is up to you but the oil that comes in it needs to stay there long enough to at least break in the engine. I would not do it before 3k but I don’t think it will do any harm to wait till the 7.5k mark.
Your car, your choice. Do what will help you sleep at night.
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Yes that was true of Acura so before doing my first oil change at 2000, I consulted the dealer who said no problem.
In the video, he says 1000 fir the first oil change the 5000. I didn’t see anyone saying 1000 mile changes. Maybe I missed it.
What I didn’t miss was 90% of the drivers don’t care about what makes the car go or what the inside of the engine looks like. Why we keep having these conversations.
As I’ve written about this previously, there are some dealers who offer incentives that they someday wish they had not…
Exclusions are: only for the original owner, must have all recommended service performed, and no modifications beyond the manufacturer’s specs. They have a limited version of this incentives for their used cars…
These incentives are on the '19 Toyota, '20 Honda, and the '85 Toyota and this is what I was referring to when I wrote, "who offer incentives that they someday wish they had not… " My wife is the original owner of the '85 Toyota and still getting the Free Oil Changes and Start Inspections…
Excellent Advice. I will read every word of that extended agreement and ask questions of the sales person. The sales person scared me into buying it because he said if the computer display screen fails and it’s not under warranty it would cost me $6,000
It is your vehicle and if it gives you piece of mind change it earlier. I would wait to after the break in period before changing it. your owner’s manual will tell you how long that is. On my new car I changed it after the break in period just for the heck of it. and will change it at about every 6k miles or 6 months like my owner’s manual says. I would not go more than 6-7k miles before changing your engine oil, and always use synthetic oil. remember changing it early won’t hurt your engine but changing it late probably will.
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You are writing the checks. It is up to you when you when you want to get the oil and filter changed. If any of the staff laugh at you, immediately inform the dealership manager of the situation The dealership staff is almost certainly instructed to always show respect to the customers. The manager will be thankful you tell them.
As far as when to do the first oil change, were I in that situation, I’d do it at half the recommended interval. And I’d do all the other oil changes the same. For example , if the recommended interval is 10K miles, I’d do it every 5 k miles. Changing the oil too frequently can only help the engine, never hurt. Remember that the manufacturer has a conflict of interest. They are in the business of selling new cars. If their cars last a long time, that hurts their future new car sales.
They do it behind your back.
They’re not stupid.
Tester
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I believe the interval for non severe driving is every 10,000 miles but i will tell thenm i want to do it every 5,000 miles instead
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In the past 25 years I’ve done oil changes based on the oil life monitor (OLM). My driving was almost all highway, and was not severe. If you do mostly stop and go driving or it’s always hot or dusty where you are you’re driving may be in severe conditions. On my 1998 Buick and 2005 Honda the OLM tripped at about 7000 miles and said change it now at 7500 miles. I sold the cars with nearly 200,000 on them and the engine still ran fine.
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Highly debated topic. If not mentioned in the owners manual, then probably not necessary. You can do what you want though. If you could do it yourself and not pay for labor then it would be cheap, but that’s not an option. How much is an oil change these days at the dealership? Is the cost worth it to you, if it’s not started as being recommended and you could just be wasting money?
Congrats on the new car!
Tin foil hat time!
Hehe, I heard a conspiracy once, oil change intervals are getting longer, double what they used to be, back in my the day it was every 5000 miles, and before that every 3,000 now it’s every 10,000 or even better when the maintenance light says so lol. They don’t want it to last you 300,000 because then your not buying a new car as often as you’d like
Don’t know if it’s true or not. But a similar thing happened for light bulbs, the life span got to long, and so the companies that made them got together and lowered them intentionally.
Just something to consider, if you make a product that lasts to long, then you won’t be buying a new one any time soon, not a sustainable business model. The concept at least, seems to be logical.