Cabin A/C air filter replacement a necessity or a nice to have?

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My wife’s Infiniti had one, and she didn’t know it. Same thing… 6-7 years of dirt and dust (plus a few bugs).

When I replaced it, the AC blew twice as hard! Long overdue. Probably shortened the life of the AC components a bit.

Dealers charge WAY too much to replace them. But a filter, look on youtube for your model, and spend 10-30 minutes… and DONE!

They don’t appreciably purify the air. A HEPA won’t pass enough air, and less than HEPA filtration isn’t effective.

All my old cars had/have vent wings, so I somehow survived breathing unfiltered outside air without dying over the last 60 years…

What do YOU think is fair for a dealer to charge to replace a cabin air filter?

How many tenths for labor?

One tenth is 6 minutes, btw

What about the cost of the part?

It varies by make and model, and how pricey the brand is.

I’ve see labor charges for high end cars of $200 or more. At the low end, I’ve heard of dealers charging for the filter itself, but installing it free if other servicing is being done at the same time, as a goodwill gesture. Smart dealers!

Filters themselves vary from $10-$30.

If a fan with enough static pressure is used it’ll pass enough air.

Tester

If a ventilation system was designed to use a HEPA filter (with higher pressure ) then they would be fine. I would not replace a typical loosely bound paper element with a tighter HEPA filter for fear of overstressing a fan not designed for it.

Besides, one open window for a few seconds would “pollute” the air with normal particles enough I can hardly believe the filter makes any difference in your health.

You know who charges WAY too much to do things? Everyone.

The yard service wanted $500 to trim the trees, ivy, and bushes that my son and I did over a long afternoon. The roofing/siding company charged me $650 to replace and paint some rotted fascia that I could have done in a few hours. Have you ever had a toilet or water heater replaced? Those guys charge way too much too.

I often found myself repairing a car and thinking “who pays this much for a simple brake job?” Then I answered myself…people who can’t or don’t want to do it themselves.

If you knew fan laws, you would know that the amount of air a fan moves doesn’t effect a fan.

But, the amount of air that you ask the fan to move can effect the motor.

Tester

I can understand the prices dealers charge, what with salaries and overhead. While it’s ‘simple’ to replace many of them, the mechanic still have to get the filter, empty the glove box, remove it, replace the filter, then put everything back. That time adds up, that’s why I do it myself.

As a consultant, the projects I disliked were the ‘short’, ‘just give me a quick estimate’ kind of projects. Always took more time than the client wanted and they never wanted to pay for that time. I imagine it’s the same with ‘easy’ stuff like cabin air filter replacement.

Before I retired, our standard (most any vehicle) CAF sold for $49.99 + tax, $29.99 for the filter and $20.00 for the labor was the break down, it paid the techs 0.4 hours… Sold a lot of them…
Sometimes the pitch was, here is your current CAF (we would show the customer their filter) and say we can put a new one in for $49.99, or put your dirty one back in…

I have also had customers ask for one and I would bring their pretty clean one to them and say, you don’t need one, but they insisted to replace it anyway…

I was quoted $35 labor to replace the engine air filter and $50 for the cabin air filter. Engine filter is on wifes Crown and my new Highlander literally takes less then 2 minutes. The cabin air filter - maybe 10 minutes.

As a professional mechanic - do you think those prices are out of line considering how simple they are? I do.

At $175.00 an hour shop rate, $35 is only 0.2 pay to the tech, the tech has to make something worth while, to go get the work order, get the parts and at minimum go out to the vehicle, fill out the work order and then install the part, worst case he brings the vehicle into the shop which requires floor mat, seat covers and maybe even a steering wheel cover, and has to wait on the parts department for the part, and finally turn in the work order once done and return the keys… Whereas he could be working on a bigger paying job for 2+ hours and only have to go to the car and pull it in once and fill out the workorder once etc etc etc… Now just imagine only doing 10 0.2 hour paying jobs (total 2 hours) and having to do all that paper work and parts getting, and going out to the vehicle and and for 10 vehicles vs one 2.0 hour job… I know which one I would choose, so I think $35 is a fair price for labor…

Now if you think the tech should only get paid 0.1 flat rate at $175 and hour then you would be paying $17.50, but the tech would have to do 20 to make the same 2 hours he could be making on a 2 hour job…

I was paid 0.2 hours to replace the cabin air filter; I had to inspect 20 of them for each one sold.

You must live in a dirt-free environment if you don’t have to clean out the air cleaner box. Or maybe you carry a vacuum cleaner on your hip.

The main function of the filter to keep leaves and dirt out of the evaporator case. Wet leaves cause corrosion of the evaporator coil.

Reducing odors is a nice sell, but not really effective. Customers still complain the A/C smells like gym socks; they blame the car and not their children.

For clarity; a labor charge of 0.2 is equal to $4 of pay after taxes.
If I have to return to the parts counter because the counter man keeps giving me the wrong filter, I get a little anxious and impatient. That never happens to other people of course.

Some vehicle owners may keep spare filters in their vehicles, so it only takes 10 seconds to replace a filter.

I would replace the filter for free if that was all I had to do. But I have to lift the car, measure the brake pads, inspect the tire tread, inspect for oil leaks, inspect the light bulbs, wipers etc. and fill out a report.

And maybe they can’t do it themselves because their bodies are too far gone and won’t let them do those things that the businesses are apparently overcharging for

Never underestimate how much physical pain a customer might be in. Just because you saw them drive in and walk around doesn’t mean they’re “good” . . . IMO

My colleagues don’t see me on the weekend. They don’t know I spend most of it physically recovering and trying to keep what I’ve got, so to speak. And it’s not their business to know these things either, as I see it. I work with them. They’re not my friends. I feel it’s important to keep a healthy separation between work and free time