Bing, I hope for your sake that you’re just ribbing me. It would be a shame to think you were actually seriously arguing about the last names of Smokey and Cecil.
@TSM, we take your words very seriously here, so watch what you say. 
@ok4450 Climate change (they no longer call it “global warming”) is indeed very complex. Since there has been no global warming for the last 15 years, while the CO2 in the atmosphere has increased, you might conclude that there is no linear relationship.
The location of weather stations also leaves you wonder about the validity of the results. In the past airports, usually located outside built up areas, were a main source of temperature readings. All these airports now have become “heat islands” because of the huge amount of energy from large aircraft as well as vey large industrial park, residences, and office buildings.
Looking back, the earth has gone through various climate cycles, even in our recorded history. There was the warming period in the Middle Ages when England produced some fine wines, followed by a severe cooling when Europe’s rivers regularly froze over. Famous Dutch painters of that era showed many winter scenes with all the canals and rivers frozen over.
That Middle Age warming was warmer than we have today, and there was no industry and England only had less than 3 million people.
Things warmed up again then, long before the major impact of the “Industrial Revolution”, which the UN Climate body claims is responsible for the warming.
Both the UN and politicians have to simplify the “problem” and Al Gore has massacred the facts more than most. Most members of Green Peace have little or no training in even basic chemistry.
Having said all that, I believe we should reduce CO2 production and energy consumption, but not out of fear of drowning. It’s just good husbandry of resources.
The Russian Communists and German Nazis really understood the value of propaganda. Simplify it, say it loudly, and often enough and add a dose of “scare”, and people will believe and follow you. Al Gore uses all these tools, as does Obama to get you to believe.
While I am no global-warming alarmist, that ‘15 year of no global warming claim’ doesn’t seem to fit NOAA’s data:
More info here:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/news/recent-global-surface-warming-hiatus
Hello, could you please try to up the car content of this discussion? While it’s quite informative and an important issue, the thread is drifting. Thank you.
Yeah a little ribbing Mountainbike. I don’t remember what the original issue was after 9 pages. Oh yeah, which is hotter, white or black in the sun.
To bring it back to cars, my BIL stopped by Sunday and was talking about a product called Lizard Skin that he was quite impressed with for car restorations. Its a heavy spray on coating that reduces road noise as well as inside temps. Looks like its best used while restoring old cars to spray on ceilings, door panels, floors etc. Kinda pricey of course.
To bring it back to cars, my BIL stopped by Sunday and was talking about a product called Lizard Skin that he was quite impressed with for car restorations. Its a heavy spray on coating that reduces road noise as well as inside temps. Looks like its best used while restoring old cars to spray on ceilings, door panels, floors etc. Kinda pricey of course
Sounds like rubberized undercoating or maybe even truck-bed liner.
I looked it up. It’s for heat and sound control for automobiles.
Typical sound insulating sheets for automobiles are, in fact, rubber sheets with an aluminum skin on one side and adhesive on the other. I have to assume that the “Lizard Skin” is a spray on rubber coating.
" It’s easy to predict the weather…but climate is much more difficult to predict."
…and the number of people who don’t understand the difference between climate and weather is…huge. If we have a few cool days in a row, there are lots of people who will say…See! There’s no global warming taking place!
But, to return to the topic of the thread, I think that a lot has to do with the type of upholstery in a car. Thinking back to both my '71 Charger and my '74 Volvo, they both had a black leather interior, and sitting on those seats on a hot summer day while wearing shorts was…not pleasant.
By contrast, when I sit on the perforated black leather seats in my 2011 Outback, I don’t experience any discomfort.
Climate change is a concern, I have a greater concern bout frakking or fracking to include gas for our cars! (car related for my dear moderator!). By this process:
underground, via injection of what chemicals, can’t say patent rights protect the formula but benzine a known carcinogen is an ingredient,
Land, train derailments and leaking pipelines, big problems
Atmosphere, you can see ND "When oil comes to the surface, it often brings natural gas with it, and according to North Dakota’s Department of Mineral Resources, 29 percent of the natural gas now extracted in North Dakota is flared off. Gas isn’t as profitable as oil, and the energy companies don’t always build the pipes or systems to carry it away. What a waste!
And back in the ditch we go…
Can we just find out who had to buy the beer on the bet and end this thing.
Funny how the deserts are so sparsely populated(shows up good at night),the Detroit"Skunkwagon" has really contributed to enviromental degradation,what I wonder is,with less smog,will more solar radition hit the ground?
@volvo_v70 I acquiesed to loosing, white elephant bet, something from my mil vs something from his dads, Nicely sharp releif beer stein he got, glad to give it away, and he tresures it, after a few test runs now in his cabinet of prized posessions, but not sure on an 85 degree day 3 to 7 degrees was signiicant, define significant I guess.
I still say use the idle cars for solar water heating(plenty warm enough for bathing)
Tubing attached to the underside of the roof, behind the headliner.
An access door on the rear quarter panel with quick connects.
Hoses into house or outside shower stall.
The loop could also go on a pickup bed (underside), preferably painted black.
I am with Bing , it irritated me mightily when our Government wasted money for an ad campaign to stop people from referring to “Smokey the Bear” . I don’t know which irritated me more, the stupidity or the wrongness.
I was as bad as when Elizabeth Dole as Transportation Secretary proposed seat belts for motorcycles.
Thanks. The thing with seat belts and motorcycles is that sometimes you don’t want to stay with the bike. Just like lawn mowers when you are rolling them over. You want to be able to get off fast.
“Elizabeth Dole as Transportation Secretary proposed seat belts for motorcycles.”
Did she really do that?
I had never before heard that story.
The Lady that gave us the third brake light,actually proposed something that boneheaded?