Ban 6000k headlights

LEDs are becoming popular for headlights these days. The rules and regulations controlling these are not adequate for the new technology so manufacturers are taking advantage and producing headlights that are fundamentally unsafe.

The old tungsten headlamps that were used when these rules were written had a color temp of around 2700k. Halogen bulbs came out and were an improvement in light output and produced light in the 3000k spectrum.

DOT allowed the halogen bulbs even though they were a little brighter than original lights, but not really enough brighter to cause problems for people. Also the color temperatures were broad spectrum more or less centered around a color temperature. LEDs are narrow spectrum centered around their stated color temperature. Narrow spectrum concentrates the light energy on fewer of the cones and rods in our eyes, over stimulating them in comparison to a broad spectrum light of the same lumens and centered around the same color temperature.

Xenon lights became popular for awhile offering a brighter light that mostly a whiter light, higher color temperature.

Now comes LED bulbs that have a great deal of control over output, light pattern and color temperature. People tend to want the whiter light in their vehicles but don’t necessarily want other drivers, especially oncoming drivers to have them as they tend to blind them.

LEDs can be made to a wide variety of color temperatures, 2700k, 3000k, 4000k, 5000k and 6000k. The can also produce a lot more lumens per watt of any light source.

The 6000k not only blind oncoming drivers more than lower temp bulbs, they really don’t do much for the driver either due to curtain effect. Everything with in range of the bulbs does appear brighter, but that reflected brightness of close objects actually makes it harder to see objects a little further away. In bad weather, the problem gets much worse.

As an experiment, I put 6000k LED high beam lamps in my Silverado, left the halogens in the low beam. The LEDs pump out about 12,000 lumens, they are really bright. On low beam, I can see pretty far down the road, far enough to drive safely at 55 mph at night. When I flick on the high beams, every thing is brighter, but I noticed that it did not increase the distance I can see. It’s like the lights go so far and then just stop.

DOT needs to come up with a set of rules for headlights that do not consider the source of the light but just the specs of the light, such as output, color temp and pattern. Maybe even add the height above the ground, which will be tough on lifted vehicles, but lifted vehicles are a problem when it comes to headlights. Not saying ban lifted vehicles, just you have to come up with a way to relocate the head lights if you do lift.

Lifted vehicles should be banned!

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Won’t even argue with you there . The headlights on some of these cars and trucks have gotten to the ridiculous point and are downright dangerous . To go along with that they also seem to think you need to have led foglights and whatever they are using for DRL’s on at the same time .

I have no problem with new cars and factory installed led lights.
Any type of retrofit on older cars? Probably no.

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To me, the problem isn’t how bright they are, but how they are aimed. Modern lights can have a shield that blocks excess light from above a certain height.

My kid has Lexus with projector lights and he tried led bulbs. Made no difference. I’d assume Lexus light assys are well made. He has had 1/2 dozen cars/trucks and tried to improve lighting in all. this was lexus #2. i think he has had 3-4. yes, these led lights were nice. but he didnt like the steel trusses on the front. he bought it this way.

Roads around here aren’t very flat. Even with the blocking, you get blinded quite often when approaching cars go up even a slight incline. The “brightness” of some new car headlamps is hazardous to oncoming traffic IMO. I have to divert my eyes to the side of the road as they pass to avoid being blinded…

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Many states have laws banning lifted vehicles. But it’s rarely enforced. Many years ago, in a small town in NH, one of these lifted vehicles lost control and drove over a Ford Tempo. Driver (mother) was seriously injured. The 12yo passenger (daughter) was killed. The driver was an off duty cop, driving his own lifted (illegal) truck.

That’s the problem with some of these lights. Way too bright and very blinding. I don’t have 20yo eyes that can adjust very quickly. The biggest craze here in NH is the 10,000 lumen light bars that’s mounted on the front grill (mainly pickups and SUVs). Those things are extremely blinding. But the laws for this is NEVER EVER enforced.

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Here’s some info about light spectra of the various sources used for headlights.

The hot filament of regular incandescent and halogen lamps produce a smooth black body spectrum.
Our eyes are evolved to respond best to this natural type of light.

Many artificial light sources produce a spectrum with bright lines and/or gaps.
Besides interfering with the appearance of colored objects, bright lines in the blue end of the spectrum can increase the perception of glare.

In the case of LED headlights there’s an efficiency advantage to higher color temp, due to the way “white” LEDs are made.
“Raw” LEDs cannot be made to emit a broad spectrum. They produce more of a “fuzzy” line.
“White” LED chips actually emit blue and are coated with a phosphor that converts some of the blue light into red and yellow.
That conversion isn’t 100% efficient, so if more blue light is let through the more efficient the lamp is overall.
The downside is a brighter blue line in the overall spectrum.

Household LED bulbs can afford run at lower efficiency with a relatively thick phosphor coating to get 2700K color temp.
LED headlamps however are challenged by needs for compactness and cooling.

I think the solution is to put very bright 6000K in your own vehicle, along with traditional lights too. Then have some kind sensor that senses these overly bright lights and gradually turns the LED lights on to match the other car.

In the back put a large curved security mirror on the tailgate to let the tailgating car behind see what they look like.

I wonder why they don’t put some red and green chips in there to mix with the blue and produce white?