At 105 mph, 2008 Expedition loses power

According to "State Traffic and Speed Laws"
http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/laws.html

You were traveling at more than 25 mph over the speed limit which in Col. is classified as “reckless driving” and is a misdemeanor criminal offense.
Please remember that, the next time you skirt the issue and think that little caution light and license you carry gives you permission to break the law w/o just cause…it doesn’t.

I’ve stopped more than a few drivers who “thought” they had a the right to speed (one was state police). Remember that even your one car accident increases the risk to those that have to prosecute it and those innocents traveling by after the fact. That’s why the traffic law doesn’t say something like “75 mph speed limit unless no one else is around and you get a juvenile itch you have to scratch”.

Tell that to State Patrol troopers and other law enforcement and EMS personnel who have gone faster than that.

The best argument so far.
EMS responding to a mishap and accidents happening behind a mishap are other hazards.

Actually, that was a law in Montana.

Going 105 mph in an Expedition, any Expedition, for any reason, is far more likely to take a life than to save a life.

I’d be hard-pressed to believe that your boss, your conpany, the vehicle prep place that adapted it for use as an emergency vehicle, or the DMV would condone this act.

Please slow down.

I agree with you.
I dislike speed. The higher the sped the greater the danger.
Inefficient, polluting, more stress on the vehicle.

This was one descent, no traffic, dry, clean, clear road.
But it was interesting how smoothly the Expedition traveled.
I don’t know how well it handled because I didn’t try any of those parameters.

Ford guys say it is fine.
Why is it governed at 105? (One Ford guy thinks it is actually 103.)

You had better warn the police department which wants the governor speed increased.
Ford guy says Ford refuses to do it.

 I can assure you 105mph kicks ass in a 72 Fleetwood.  Fleetwood had a 472, rear wheel drive, while the Deville had a 500 and front wheel drive.  
 Some time back in the 60's, I guess someone had to be hauled to the hospital in Madison pretty quickly and air lift did not exist yet.. With one of those 60's era Cadillac ambulances they had the police clear 151 and averaged about 125MPH (over about a 30 mile distance).

 Anyway, next time you trade in, I would get a nice sedan.  There's plenty of vehicles that have enough brakes and suspension for 100+MPH, and won't burn up the oil doing it.  I just have a Buick Regal and I can drive through over 1 foot of snow, front wheel drive is great for slick conditions and the traction control makes it a little easier to get going on ice and slick snow (if I don't "feather the gas" it'll do it for me.)  (If you have the Expedition because of heavy snow).

 One note on the oil change notice, if your manual calls for regular oil and you use synthetic, the system won't know that.  It could be hassling you for burning up your oil when the synthetic's completely unaffected by it.

Tell that to State Patrol troopers and other law enforcement and EMS personnel who have gone faster than that.

They aren’t driving a truck, you are. A less than mature response is that it’s OK because someone else does; that makes it OK ?
166 posts and you either don’t get it or we’ll just assume you’re jerking everyone’s chain and enjoying it. I’d rather think the latter, and not really think actions like yours are common place.
It’s been fun.

Happy holidays !

 I would hope instead they would just limit the torque, they already did that a few times for gas models.  You don't get that torque peak but instead having a satisfyingly broad RPM range with almost even power across the range.  Probably on a diesel it'd improve mileage too.

Correct. I stated that earlier.
They are not driving an SUV, though many police departments now are using Expeditions and one has asked Ford to remove the governor.

This is not commonplace - one descent on an interstate, first time attaining the governed speed.
Never had that happen before.
Though it was interesting, no need to do that again.

 I agree with you, Robert Gift, I think your speed was fine... this being Cartalk, I'm afraid there are a lot of people on here who seem to think no one should drive over 55, and it seems a lot that have never been out of the northeast or california -- they simply cannot imagine a road that is not full of traffic, curves, and blind spots.
 Obviously you live in the northeast.  It's VERY VERY easy to not pass anyone for a loooong time on many many roads outside the northeast and california  He's said at least a dozen times, he did not drive this fast around any other traffic, he was going much slower the rest of the time, with some sort of emergency lights going.

I have to tell you that I’m pleased by the responsible manner in which you’re responding to our lecturing. I’d guess that most of us doing the admonishing have been over 100 at least once, although not in an Expedition. Although when I was young I went over 50 mph in an Isetta once (see link). That’s probably every bit as dumb as going 105 in an Expedition. Even more so.

What an interesting vehicle!

50 to 70 mpg!
Must have been fun to drive.

It was, shall we say, different. No protection whatsoever. Like rolling down the road in a foil christmas tree ornament in 10" wheels. One accident and I would have been toast. These cars had far, far less protection and were far less safe than even my '61 Beetle.

In truth there were a lot of different “bubble car” designs produced after WWII for a European economy that was in ruins and needed super cheap transport. Many of them made their way to the U.S. There were no safety regulations as we know them today at that time and you could drive almost anything. Google “bubble cars” to see some cool stuff.

I have seen the cops drive fast in Police Interceptors. I have never seen them use Expeditions to drive fast, even when there are emergencies.

175 posts…A Trolls paradise…

Hint: This thread will NEVER end until Robert Gift makes the last post. Please, let him do that…

Have you ever driven 105 on a sparsly travelled road dagosa? Oh yeah, but it was in kilometers per hour… And even that seemed too fast.

I know this is an old thread, but this is ridiculous… getting lectured about driving fast by someone who admits they’ve don’t drive fast.

3 seconds to react and hit the brakes? Even a cantaloupe can react faster than that. Reaction times are closer to the .5 second range for people in good health, averaging around .75 seconds for a general, non-elderly population.

Doing 100+ on an open freeway with good visibility is nothing. Really, it’s dull, and perfectly safe. It’s more stressful doing 25mph through a tree-lined neighborhood than 120 through the flat nothingness of Kansas.

  1. catalytic converter
  2. fuel filter
  3. really, really strong headwind

I am amazed at the rudeness of some of these replies. The question is about a car not being able to go over 105. It is not a moral discussion. That’s one of the problems we have in this country: too many people think they have the right to dictate morality. Sure, going over the speed limit can be dangerous, but that’s not the topic here. Do police ever exceed the speed limit? Of course. Speeds over 100 mph can be handled safely. Just look at Europe.

Stick to the topic, folks, and limit your moral opionions to you own life.

We offer moral opinions all the time on CarTalk, it is one of the better features of the Forum.

If you want to post here be prepared to get both the actual question answered and get opinions on if you should even be doing what is causing your problem in the first place.

It’s sorta like when you go to the Doctor and say “Doc it hurts when I do this” and the Doc says 'Don’t do that". Many time the answer to people’s situation is to tell them not to do what they are doing or planning on doing. Where would we be if we could not offer opinion on the daily posts that CarTalk gets from people who want opinions on so many different subjects,including moral ones on how they were treated in a deal with a mechanic,moral opinions are a very front and center part of CarTalk.

Could you not tell we were trying to let this thread expire? but NO you had to offer up your moral opinion.