' As Stick Shifts Fade Into Obscurity, Collectors See Opportunity'

'For the 1980 model year, 35 percent of cars produced for sale in the United States had manual transmissions, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. Today, the share is about 1 percent. And just 18 percent of American drivers can drive a stick, according to U.S. News and World Report.'
'This relative scarcity has collectors and enthusiasts salivating. They are pushing up the values of late-model sports cars with a clutch pedal and, in the process, creating a new class of collectible cars. '
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'The tipping point, however, was actually the introduction of quick-shifting, hyper-efficient dual-clutch automatic transmissions a little over a decade ago, causing trendsetting sports car manufacturers to all but give up on the clutch pedal.'
'For Ferrari, the manual transmission had the significance of religious iconography. The company's distinctive "gated" shifters - which lacked a cover to hide what slot or gear the lever was in - were both tricky to master and beautiful to look at.'
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Ferrari gated shifter…

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My 1980 and 1998 Pathfinders were 5-speed manuals. When I bought my 05 4runner - most SUV’s at the time were strictly automatics. As of today I don’t know of any SUV’s that has a Manual tranny.

It use to be that manuals were better at gas mileage. That’s not true anymore. With an SUV…automatics are stronger for towing.

Many sport cars are manuals…although the 2020 Mid-engine Corvette is strictly automatucs. But I heard rumors that may change. Also heard rumors Corvette is going back to front-engine. We’ll see. GM is very very secretive.

Keyboard slip? All mid-engine Corvettes 2020 onward are automatics. An 8 speed, dual-clutch automatic from Tremec

No - Brain fart. Yes I meant to say they are all automatics. But that may change. Partly because they are having getting parts for their dual-clutch automatic. They are 3,000 short on builds vs orders because because of the automatic shortage.

Pretty sure that was an April Fools post (it was posted on April 1). Nothing about it at any web site except for one.

Seeing as how orders for the mid engine Corvette far exceed GMs ability to build them, I think they will stay mid engine.

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Friend of mine owns a 2017 Vette. He belongs to a Vette Car Club. They heard it too. But who knows.

Personally, I’ve always preferred manuals over automatics and even my late wife loved our Subaru with a manual.
My 3 kids? Only one would even attempt to learn a manual and after killing it twice with clutch engagement refused to even try again.

Even my 2 vintage Harleys have hand shifts and foot clutches and will take that any day of the week over a foot shift setup.

If there was anything to a RWD Vette there’d be news all over the place. I’d be stunned if GM would abandon the rear engine after investing, what, a billion dollars on it. Likely that Vette guy saw the same April 1 post. Sounds more like sour grapes from some ‘old school’ Vette folks. Like @Mustangman said, they can’t make them fast enough, why would they change?
GM ‘Not Even Close’ To Meeting Corvette C8 Demand (gmauthority.com)

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GM is not abandoning the C8. as it is now there is a 8 month wait to get one. the Z06 has been pushed back for release until 2023 because of chip shortages.
C8 Corvette Z06 Won’t Arrive Until 2023 Model Year (gmauthority.com)
here is one of the best corvette forums I have found, if interested.
CorvetteForum - Chevrolet Corvette News and Rumors

Not to split hairs…but it’s a Mid-Engine…Not a Rear-engine. The rumor has been around for a while. GM is having a lot of production problems with the mid-engine vette. I hope they don’t abandon it.

I still have 2 stickshifts, but one’s 28 years old and the other is 30. I’ll almost certainly never buy another new, or even newer one. Not because I don’t want one, but because they’re generally unobtainable.

It’s getting to the point where I should be able to declare that standard transmission an anti-theft device for insurance discount purposes. :wink:

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You know what? I take it back - the next Corvette might be front engine…and rear engine (well, motor), as an EV. It’ll be about 8 years from now, could well have very few new gas vehicles out of GM by then, they could make the Corvette their ‘halo’ EV. Two 500 hp electric motors would be fun.

Sure would, and dangerous. If Chevrolet does that, they should deliver the car at a road racing course with a mandatory option of a one week race driving school.

1000 hp isn’t that extreme any more:
Tesla’s 1100-HP, 520-Plus-Mile Model S Plaid to Get New 4680 Battery (caranddriver.com)

Tesla can deliver at Laguna Seca too.

chevy is coming out with a hybrid corvette . its called the E-RAY
Corvette E-Ray Info, Pics, Specs, Wiki | GM Authority
2023 C8 ‘E-Ray’ Corvette Development Confirmed - CorvetteForum

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Can someone tell me if my 2016 Veloster 6 speed is going to be a collectible soon?!
Right now, it is having the clutch slave cylinder changed at 70K miles. As much as I enjoy driving the manual, sometimes it turns into a headache.

As Stick Shifts Fade Into Obscurity, Collectors See Opportunity

Cars with manual transmissions, even late models, are holding their value as the collector market hunts for rarity.

RM Sotheby’s recently sold a 2007 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, with a manual transmission, for $692,500, far more than an automatic version would have commanded.

RM Sotheby’s recently sold a 2007 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, with a manual transmission, for $692,500, far more than an automatic version would have commanded.Credit…RM Sotheby’s

By Rob Sass

June 24, 2021, 6:00 a.m. ET

They’re not extinct yet, but the end is coming for stick-shift cars.

For the 1980 model year, 35 percent of cars produced for sale in the United States had manual transmissions, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. Today, the share is about 1 percent. And just 18 percent of American drivers can drive a stick, according to U.S. News and World Report.

This relative scarcity has collectors and enthusiasts salivating. They are pushing up the values of late-model sports cars with a clutch pedal and, in the process, creating a new class of collectible cars.

At the rate the stick shift is disappearing, it might join the automotive fossil record even before the internal combustion engine. In fact, in 2019, sales of electric vehicles surpassed the sale of manual transmission cars. Because of the torque delivery of their motors, E.V.s have no need for heavy, complicated six- or seven-speed gearboxes, whether automatic or manual.

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The tipping point, however, was actually the introduction of quick-shifting, hyper-efficient dual-clutch automatic transmissions a little over a decade ago, causing trendsetting sports car manufacturers to all but give up on the clutch pedal. Before that, a manual transmission was de rigueur in any serious performance car.

ImageThe 2007 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano. Only 30 were built that year with a manual transmission.

The 2007 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano. Only 30 were built that year with a manual transmission.Credit…RM Sotheby’s

For Ferrari, the manual transmission had the significance of religious iconography. The company’s distinctive “gated” shifters — which lacked a cover to hide what slot or gear the lever was in — were both tricky to master and beautiful to look at.

The businesslike shifter design was used in Ferrari competition cars starting in the late 1940s. By the 1990s, paddle shifters mounted to steering wheels, which worked without a clutch pedal, supplanted the gated shifter in most racing cars. Road cars (and video games) quickly followed — a 2012 Ferrari California was the last three-pedal Ferrari to leave the factory in Maranello, Italy, one of just two so equipped.

Lamborghini, McLaren, Maserati and Alfa Romeo haven’t offered manual transmissions in the United States for many years, either. Jaguar quietly stopped offering a manual option on the F-type sports car several years ago. Of the high-end European performance-car makers, only Porsche, BMW, Lotus and Aston Martin still give customers the option of shifting for themselves.

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By 2007, the three-pedal Ferrari was beginning to fade. The last one was a 2012 model.

By 2007, the three-pedal Ferrari was beginning to fade. The last one was a 2012 model.Credit…RM Sotheby’s

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Car collectors, who tend to be contrarians, are notoriously attracted to the first and last of anything, so it was probably predictable that they would start to want the last, and arguably the best, of the manual transmission cars.

“These cars tend to be perhaps newer than the cars that collectors typically pursue, but in some cases, the rarity factor offsets this,” said Alexander Weaver, a consignment specialist for RM Sotheby’s, a Canadian classic-car auction company.

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Last month, that auction company sold a 2007 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano for $692,500. It was one of just 30 built with a manual transmission for that year, and it cost about $313,000 when new. To put the sale into perspective, the Ferrari brought three to four times what a comparable car with an automatic would have realized.

“The spike in values has been noticeable,” said David Gooding, founder of the California-based auction firm Gooding & Company. “These cars might not be for everyone, but for a certain collector or driver who wants a true, analog sports-car feel, but with good air conditioning and modern comforts, a late-model sports car with a manual transmission can be very attractive.”

Like RM Sotheby’s, Mr. Gooding’s auction house can point to numerous sales of manual Ferraris that fetched far more than a comparable automatic. It’s much the same in the Lamborghini world, said Mr. Weaver, who noted that “manual transmission examples of the Murciélago sell for up to three times the price of automatics.”

Even Porsche, which announced that its new 911 GT3 would be offered with a six-speed manual, has had prices spike for certain rare, late-model stick-shift cars, Mr. Gooding said.

The phenomenon repeats in the online auction world, and has spread to less expensive cars. Randy Nonnenberg, co-founder of the online auction company Bring a Trailer, points to manual BMW M3s and M5s from the early and mid-2000s as particularly in demand.

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Randy Nonnenberg of Bring a Trailer. “Manuals tended to be second cars,” he said, and “they usually have lower miles and were sometimes better cared for.”

Randy Nonnenberg of Bring a Trailer. “Manuals tended to be second cars,” he said, and “they usually have lower miles and were sometimes better cared for.”Credit…Kenny Hurtado for The New York Times

“In addition to the rarity factor, manuals were often used differently,” Mr. Nonnenberg said. “Automatics were daily drivers, and manuals tended to be second cars. They usually have lower miles and were sometimes better cared for.”

Mr. Nonnenberg and Mr. Weaver also cited the somewhat bizarre trend of owners paying large sums to professionally convert their cars from automatics to manuals. In the case of BMW M3 conversions, owners are simply trying to redress the lack of supply.

Aston Martin Vanquish owners who convert their cars have the added cachet of creating a car that the factory never offered. In both situations, Mr. Weaver and Mr. Nonnenberg said, the owner can come out slightly ahead even after spending upward of $20,000 for a manual conversion.

A common joke among car enthusiasts is that the stick shift has a new and unintended feature — as an anti-theft device. But McKeel Hagerty, the chief executive of Hagerty, which offers classic-car insurance, valuations and rentals, said these cars could retain their allure for certain collectors.

“In a future where outcomes are ever more decided with an algorithm, people will seek the ability to make their own choices,” Mr. Hagerty said. “The rarity factor is certainly there,” he added, “and being able to drive a manual is a badge of being a true car person.”

While many drivers nowadays didn’t grow up using a stick, Mr. Hagerty doesn’t view that as a huge impediment. “The learning curve isn’t really that steep,” he said.

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