Hard to explain to someone that has never mounted a tire… but you have to line up the bead in the right place on the wheel to make stretching the bead easier, I could train you in person much easier than typing it out to you… lol
A regular tire is much more forgiving…
Sorry, I interpreted “precise handling” in a driving context, and framed my prior question that way.
It’s also my experience that the size of the wheel makes a difference. It’s easier to mount a low-pro on a 22” wheel than a 16” one.
Maybe I’m getting old
, I know I have lost upper body strength, but yes, tire/wheels seem much heavier than say an7.25/15 on a steel rim on your 1955 DeSoto.
I bought my 2001 Dodge Ram in Tucson, Arizona, and the only option it did not have was the “Snow Plow Package" (Stiffer Front Springs). The base price was $25,605 and with all the options, $14.605, many of which were “packages” (lots of stuff loaded all into one…), total asking price was $39,250… The only “Free” item was the Front License Plate Bracket…
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When I went to buy, I had a very specific list of what I wanted and that I Did Not Want Leather, Allow wheels, and High-End Sound Systems (hey it’s the single pulse fuel injector on this Diesel and it’s LOUD, Really LOUD…).
They only had one with Diesel and we went around and around on the price… and could not come to an agreement… I left… Very disappointed…
The Salesman called back the next day claiming I would be very happy with the new proposal… I went back and they were closer and I was really tempted… But my wife’s words kept ringing in my ears… “He who cares the least, Wins…” So I left with the words to the saleman, “work on it some more…”
Two days later, the salesman called again and he used those magic words that they use to put the burden on the buyer, “What can we do to close this deal…”
I had been talking with my boss at length about this and he really thought I should buy a Ford F-250 like he had… Lots of options, with a Power Stroke V8 diesel (that’s is quiet enough to talk outside a running engine…), and with the “Big Back Seat…”
But I really liked the Ram’s Mini Backseat with the Suicide Doors, not to mention the “Gangster Grill…”
So, I got the bright idea and I borrowed my bosses F-250 and drove it to meet the Salesman and you should have seen the look on his face when I drone in… I guess he thought he lost the sale…
I told him this is the Third Episode of Plan “A” (buy a Ram…), if I leave here without a deal, Plan “B” is buy a Ford F-250…
That did it… but when the contract was written, I still paid full price on the Ram, but they gave me more for my 1996 Toyota Corolla than I paid for it originally…
So, the moral of this story is, “He who cares the least, Wins…”
That’s been my motto for many years.
Sometimes, it can be difficult to maintain the poker face and nonchalant demeanor. Only once did I meet someone else equally disinterested- my latest truck, they wouldn’t budge any further so I knew it was at the bottom.
One time I took a buddy along to keep me grounded and to help work over the buyer. It failed miserably when he got more excited than me and started saying if I didn’t buy it he would. You fool! You’re destroying any leverage for either of us! Last time I brought him along…I left that guy stew on my offer and sweated out the two days I waited. When I called him back, someone else had offered more and made him drive 30 miles only to show up with less cash. When I made my original offer again, he snagged it.
The absolute best scheme I had was to fan out the cash in front of the wife or significant other. Then there were two people working for my side…all’s fair in business ![]()
well that’s a free shower
I dunno. I think everyone gets a good, deal. Just ask them. I’ve got a feeling that the sales people yuk it up among themselves at all the antics people try. They do this every day so pretty hard to beat them at their own game,
The easiest was the credit union had agreements with various dealers. Ya go in and deal with the fleet manager. Add up everything and add $175 to the invoice and order the car. No back and forth. That was the deal. The last car we bought I wasn’t happy with the cost so walked away for six months. Same deal then so we went to another dealer. There are only three in the metro area. We talked and talked and got about the same deal we would have gotten six months prior. Took it and drove th3 new car home that afternoon. Not anxious to start it all again.
But then you have to dispose of your old vehicle. That may require haggling, no matter what the commercials say.

